Most disturbing scene in star trek?

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Yeah, and those cartoons are sick and shameful

Yeah maybe they were, but I wouldnt want to alter them or censor them, and they help us learn a lot about how our culture has evolved.

Please do yourself a favor and check the Tom and Jerry DVD collection that features an introduction by Whoopi Goldberg. She acknowledges that the cartoons that follow were filled with racial stereotypes throughout, particularly the negro housemaid with an obnoxious voice ordering Tom around. She neither derides the creators of the cartoon for using this stereotype, nor the amazing voice actress who plays her, for they are important products of the time.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yeah, and those cartoons are sick and shameful

Yeah maybe they were, but I wouldnt want to alter them or censor them, and they help us learn a lot about how our culture has evolved.

I'd like to add that these propaganda cartoons from the 40's also show us how much our culture has not evolved, which is another reason not to censor them. It may no longer be accepted for major studios to produce certain kinds of propaganda or depict certain stereotypes, but there are still niche markets for it, people in great numbers still watch prejudiced propaganda on certain stations on basic cable, and many people still think it's cool to wave racist political signs around. Such views may be out of the limelight, and some of the targets may have changed or shifted, but they are not out of the picture.

Thanks to sbk1234 for an incisive post.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Yeah, and those cartoons are sick and shameful

Yeah maybe they were, but I wouldnt want to alter them or censor them, and they help us learn a lot about how our culture has evolved.

With an appropriate preface from parents and teachers I agree people should be aware of those things. But I would not just air them as part of the regular Saturday morning cartoons without being in the context of a history lesson.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

In a sense I agree though I am generally against censorship. The DVDs were intended for adult collectors.

 

[Reliant Robin]

The end of DS9 episode Whispers, when Replicant O'Brien - who isn't aware he's a replicant - is dying with this confused look on his face, and whispers "Tell Keiko I love her".

Watching Enterprise get blown up in Twilight. I know it was an alternate timeline and got reset, but knowing Tucker, Reed, Travis etc are all on that bridge and just died on therw was a bit of a gutpunch.

The entire episode "Bound."

 

[Anwar]

Now that I think about it, Picard shedding a tear as he's being assimilated in Best of Both Worlds. To think, that he was awake the entire time that the Borg were surgically adding parts to him both internally and externally, unable to reach the surface and even scream in the tremendous pain it must have caused him but he can't because his brain was being flooded with thousands upon thousands of inhuman thoughts.

I think assimilation was better in BOBW than the quicker process started in "First Contact", much more disturbing than the robo-vampire bite of the neck.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

In a sense I agree though I am generally against censorship. The DVDs were intended for adult collectors.

Right--and if they are going to be shown to children they need to be framed in the appropriate lesson: this is an example of what we should not do ever again.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

I'm kind of surprised that nobody has bought up Plato's Stepchildren yet (of if they did I missed it).

I notice most people here tend to laugh at this, or just find it cringeworthy.

I always found it very disturbing. Since I 1st saw it as a kid, I felt horrified watching Spock and the others completely humiliated and in a way I think raped for the amusement of these people.

Meanwhile McCoy is helpless and forced to watch. And I really felt for Alexander's plight.

I'm not making any claims about it being the best episode, or anything but I always thought it had some real emotion in it, and some really disturbing stuff. But yourself in Spock's place or one of the others. Spock being forced to laugh and cry in front of a mocking audience, and laid open in front of his friends. Uhura and Chapel forced into these kinds of sexual situations with people they respect (and you can imagine Chapel's feelings for Spock in this scene). It's really rather horrific if you think about it.

Unfortunately it's usually just remembered for Kirk acting like a horse and random silliness. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way!

 

[Cyke101]

I'm kind of surprised that nobody has bought up Plato's Stepchildren yet (of if they did I missed it).

I notice most people here tend to laugh at this, or just find it cringeworthy.

I always found it very disturbing. Since I 1st saw it as a kid, I felt horrified watching Spock and the others completely humiliated and in a way I think raped for the amusement of these people.

Meanwhile McCoy is helpless and forced to watch. And I really felt for Alexander's plight.

I'm not making any claims about it being the best episode, or anything but I always thought it had some real emotion in it, and some really disturbing stuff. But yourself in Spock's place or one of the others. Spock being forced to laugh and cry in front of a mocking audience, and laid open in front of his friends. Uhura and Chapel forced into these kinds of sexual situations with people they respect (and you can imagine Chapel's feelings for Spock in this scene). It's really rather horrific if you think about it.

Unfortunately it's usually just remembered for Kirk acting like a horse and random silliness. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way!

No, you're not the only one. Forcing someone to do something against their will really is rape, and we often think that violence is only physical, when really violence can manifest mentally, emotionally, psychologically, or verbally, among other forms as well.


Besides, as the old saying goes, "Context is everything."

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I have just two words regarding Plato's Stepchildren: bitter dregs.

 

[Captain Verata]

I'm kind of surprised that nobody has bought up Plato's Stepchildren yet (of if they did I missed it).

I notice most people here tend to laugh at this, or just find it cringeworthy.

I always found it very disturbing. Since I 1st saw it as a kid, I felt horrified watching Spock and the others completely humiliated and in a way I think raped for the amusement of these people.

Meanwhile McCoy is helpless and forced to watch. And I really felt for Alexander's plight.

I'm not making any claims about it being the best episode, or anything but I always thought it had some real emotion in it, and some really disturbing stuff. But yourself in Spock's place or one of the others. Spock being forced to laugh and cry in front of a mocking audience, and laid open in front of his friends. Uhura and Chapel forced into these kinds of sexual situations with people they respect (and you can imagine Chapel's feelings for Spock in this scene). It's really rather horrific if you think about it.

Unfortunately it's usually just remembered for Kirk acting like a horse and random silliness. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way!

I agree with you. I found the idea to be controlled and humiliated like that to be terrifying when I first watched it. But when I saw this episode again, all I could think of is "why can't they use these powers when they leave this planet?"

 

[Too Much Fun]

To find something disturbing, you have to be able to take it seriously. I can't take that episode seriously. When I watched it, I couldn't feel sympathy for the characters or upset by their plight. All I could feel was anger at the writers for coming up with such embarrassing-to-watch bullshit.

 

[Distorted Humor]

TNG
Most of "Conspiracy" - Worm eating, him letting the thing in his mouth, him getting his head blown up, the queen getting vaporized. all in pre 1990 tv...Yikes!
Later on, Picard getting tortured.

DS9 - Quark in drag, nuff said

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

The end of DS9 episode Whispers, when Replicant O'Brien - who isn't aware he's a replicant - is dying with this confused look on his face, and whispers "Tell Keiko I love her".

I agree. I always thought that was one of those moments in Trek where the writers were letting the audience in on something even the main characters wouldn't acknowledge. To the rest of the crew that was just a replicant, an impostor. But we got to see that person really did see himself as O'Brien and his passing was a tragedy.

 

[MrBorg]

Oh god... where to begin...

-In "Cold Fire"(VOY)when Kes melts Tuvoks face(The scream made it even worse. Seriously, that sounded like a banshee).
-In "Threshold"(VOY)when Tom Paris pulls his tongue out.
-In "Conspiracy"(TNG)when Remmicks head explodes(Since when do phasers do that?).
-In "Conspiracy" when Remmick swallows that bug thing and it makes his neck bulge.
-Basically all of "Conspiracy".
-In "Scorpion"(VOY)when we see that pile of dismembered, bloody Borg corpses.

Thats all I can think of right now.

 

[propita]

The Flotter doll.

You know, Trevis was played by Justin Louis, aka Louis Ferreira, aka Col. young from SGU.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Somehow that explains everything.

 

[propita]

The Flotter doll.

You know, Trevis was played by Justin Louis, aka Louis Ferreira, aka Col. young from SGU.

^ Somehow that explains everything.

I've thought he's attractive--that's Louis Ferreira, not Trevis. Love his curly hair.

 

[Sci]

-In "Scorpion"(VOY)when we see that pile of dismembered, bloody Borg corpses.

I probably would have found that scene more disturbing had I not recognized the corpse pile as actually being a collection of dismembered Borg action figures from the Star Trek: First Contact line, taken apart and painted with read and then composited into the larger shot.

 

[MrBorg]

-In "Scorpion"(VOY)when we see that pile of dismembered, bloody Borg corpses.

I probably would have found that scene more disturbing had I not recognized the corpse pile as actually being a collection of dismembered Borg action figures from the Star Trek: First Contact line, taken apart and painted with read and then composited into the larger shot.

So thats how they did.

I never knew that. Its still rather disturbing though...