Oh, absolutely! When I first watched that episode, I gasped audibly at that moment and took a few seconds to realize I had a tear rolling down my cheek. Totally caught me off guard.
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Oh, absolutely! When I first watched that episode, I gasped audibly at that moment and took a few seconds to realize I had a tear rolling down my cheek. Totally caught me off guard.
The transporter murder in The Darkness And The Light almost topped that one, mostly because we actually see the gore. I forgot about that when my gf and I saw it a few days ago during dinner. I saw it for the second time, she for the first. She just looked at me and said she lost her appetite.
Harry Kim eaten alive from inside by Species 8472 DNA/whatever...and that lone tear coming from his eye...
I couldn't take that scene seriously in any context because while it was meant to be an homage to Picard/Locutus' tear in Best of Both Worlds, to me it came across more as a ripoff than an homage.
Plus, it was Kim.
I'm glad she killed Tuvix, I wanted Tuvok back! They could keep Neelix though.
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Has anyone mentioned the DS9 episode "In the Pale Moonlight" yet? I would think someone out there thinks it's disturbing.
The most disturbing thing about ITPM is that Sisko just totally forgets that he helped cover up the murder of at least four people, not two. Romulan extras evidently don't count in The Sisko's book.
Eh, he didn't care about Starfleet Redshirts either. The only Captain in Trek who ever cared about redshirts was Kirk. Kirk would suffer every time he lost one crewmember. But Picard lost some every other episode without blinking. Oh, well, perhaps Archer cared too. But seeing as how he was losing like a whole 1% of Starfleet every time he lost a crewman, he had immense reason to feel remorse that he couldn't prevent it.
YES. This was intensely disturbing to me. The casualness of teaching racial hatred to children--of exposing them to that sort of thing--chills me to the bone.
It absolutely makes me want to throw up when I see any sort of racist or hateful propaganda or caricatures given to children!
YES. This was intensely disturbing to me. The casualness of teaching racial hatred to children--of exposing them to that sort of thing--chills me to the bone.
It absolutely makes me want to throw up when I see any sort of racist or hateful propaganda or caricatures given to children!
Ever seen those cutesy "Slap a Jap!" cartoons from the WWII period? The ones considered patriotic and good for children?
Have not seen them, but I know such things exist. I am even sicker to know that "Dr. Seuss" was involved in creating stuff like that. 
Who knows? Maybe it was true. A lot of human or human-taught parents (e.g. Worf) in Star Trek are terrible. At least Madred was raising her, although the Cardassian tradition of Bring Your Daughter to Torture Day is a little bizarre.
I thought it taught a good lesson about how a people will often try to teach their young that they are always in the right and their enemies are wrong, rather than admitting their flaws if that's not the case. Reminds me of when I was in school and we were told Nazis undoubtedly wrote in their textbooks about how righteous they were. Ties into that expression "history is written by the winners".
Good call on the Cardassian warping his daughter's mind like that. It's not the first disturbing moment that jumps to mind since it isn't overtly gross or violent, but now that I think about it, it's actually in a way more disgusting that almost anything else he does to Picard. It's just so sick, immoral, and shameless. And this whole dicussion reminds me of the fact that there are cartoons where Bugs Bunny refers to a passing Asian as 'slanty eyes'.
Good call on the Cardassian warping his daughter's mind like that. It's not the first disturbing moment that jumps to mind since it isn't overtly gross or violent, but now that I think about it, it's actually in a way more disgusting that almost anything else he does to Picard. It's just so sick, immoral, and shameless. And this whole dicussion reminds me of the fact that there are cartoons where Bugs Bunny refers to a passing Asian as 'slanty eyes'.
Yeah, and those cartoons are sick and shameful. "Even" in Disney movies, there are some awful racial caricatures. I mean, there are literally 3 Jim Crows in Dumbo. And there are other examples, too.
But I don't think we can justify bad behavior like that, or like what Gul Madred did, as Myasishchev tried to do by pointing to other bad behavior. Yes, Worf and others deserve to get called out on their bad parenting, too. But it doesn't make Gul Madred any less heinous for what he did.
But I don't think we can justify bad behavior like that, or like what Gul Madred did, as Myasishchev tried to do by pointing to other bad behavior. Yes, Worf and others deserve to get called out on their bad parenting, too. But it doesn't make Gul Madred any less heinous for what he did.
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