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Iron Fist will be in Eyes of Wakanda, but ‘not the Iron Fist you expect.’
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Marvel Animation Premieres First Episode of ‘Eyes of Wakanda’ at France’s Annecy Animation Festival
From 'Black Panther' helmer Ryan Coogler’s Proximity Media Banner, ‘Eyes of Wakanda’ was teased by director Harris at an Annecy panel.
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It's a historical anthology, isn't it? So I'd expect whatever Iron Fist it depicted to be one we haven't seen before.
Yeah, I think they teased Iron Fist before so I'm assuming its someone who held the mantle centuries ago considering the nature of the show.
Chris Evans “feels like he wasn’t invited to the (Doomsday) party”:
screenrant.com
"You Feel Like You Weren't Invited To The Party": Chris Evans Addresses Missing Out On Avengers: Doomsday
Chris Evans addresses Avengers: Doomsday absence.
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Danny or Colleen? Yeah, not expecting either one.Iron Fist will be in Eyes of Wakanda, but ‘not the Iron Fist you expect.’
Marvel Animation Premieres First Episode of ‘Eyes of Wakanda’ at France’s Annecy Animation Festival
From 'Black Panther' helmer Ryan Coogler’s Proximity Media Banner, ‘Eyes of Wakanda’ was teased by director Harris at an Annecy panel.
It can be hard to tell one glowy midair CGI effect from another, but does that trailer show Riri's tech interfacing with Doctor Strange-style sorceror's circles? An amalgam of technology and magic? That's a novel twist.
Another great trailer, this time clearly laying out the stakes and why it's personnel for Riri. I can't wait.
Facts. I'll be absolutely shocked if Chris Evans is not in Doomsday.
That was my first reaction as well, and the first time I actually got excited for this.
The Hood is a magic based villain, so I guess there is some logic there Not really a fan of mixing magic and tech outside of a team situation. But it's been done pretty much since comics started.
Yeah, I know that about the Hood. I suppose you are correct that is has been done before.
Works for me. I dislike the treatment of magic as something "supernatural" and incompatible with science. If magic exists in a fictional universe, then it's as integral a part of the physical laws of that universe as electricity or gravity. Treating it as something separate because we think of science fiction and fantasy as different genres is too metatextual, calling attention to the artificiality of the fiction. It makes more sense in-universe if magic is part of science, if it can be harnessed by sufficiently advanced technology. After all, the whole way science works is to learn new things. A century and a half ago, quantum mechanics would've seemed like something magical and unscientific, but science confirmed its reality and expanded to encompass it, and now it's the foundation of modern physics and technology. Logically, the same would happen with magic if it were real.
And the MCU has already established, in Thor and Doctor Strange, that its version of magic is indeed a form of science beyond what mainstream human culture knows. We saw in Agents of SHIELD that it was possible to use technology to replicate or utilize the powers of the Darkhold. So Ironheart is following established precedent.
Also, Riri using a hybrid of tech and sorcery makes her something more distinctive than just an Iron Man clone, so it's good from that standpoint.
I've watched movies longer than you have, and box office was most certainly discussed especially in the wake of Jaws and the original Star Wars redefining the very idea of movie success.
That said, I notice some of the most hyper-defensive MCU fans around here (not meaning you) suddenly posting as if they--in this thread or elsewhere--never used box office to sell the merits of various MCU films, or ultimately contradicted this newfound position when they argued with others talking about poor box office performance. If box office did not mean anything to the individuals i'm referring to, there would be no need for said individuals to perform mental gymnastics attempting to spin the performance of various MCU films, after all, they're saying they never care about such things.
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Factually untrue.
As for the box office - I'm sure those who feel they have the right to arbitrate discussion in this and every other thread when the subject of underperformance / poor projections at the box office come up would sing a very different tune if these films were still hitting billion dollar+ home runs.
BO returns are not a measure of a film's quality, but they can serve as an interesting metric (at least for some of us) on a franchise's health and engagement.
The more I see of this, the better it's looking. I liked Riri in Wakanda Forever, so I was already looking forward to it, but now I'm really getting excited for it.
That's the part that stood out the most to me. I agree with the rest of your notions about viewing magic through the lens of sci-fi, but I'm especially curious to see how that hybrid plays a role in Riri's journey.
The way the box office obviously meant that "To Live and Die in LA", "Blade Runner", "The Thing" were all bad movies?
I just checked out the trailers for Ironheart after finding out when it's coming out and after abandoning the other two MCU TV properties - the entire Defenders Saga (specifically The Punisher) and Loki - that I'd been trying to watch (due to stalling out on them), and despite there apparently being a bunch of premature hating going on, I'm personally pretty intrigued, especially since it's apparently going to combine two of my personal favorite aspects of the MCU: Iron Man (by proxy) and the Mystic.
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