Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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Look at that caption: "Enter: Luke Skywalker! Will he save the galaxy--or destroy it?" As if he's the son of Darth Vader! 
I did, because I saw American Graffiti and was following the production of Star Wars in various fanzines. Don't know if Timmy looking at the spin rack in 7-11 did.
Which has an air of verisimilitude to it, if you look at the past 4 years in the US...
"A Film by George Lucas" sounds like an official movie credit rather than promotional hype. They might have been contractually obligated to include it. As you noted, they also credit 20th Century Fox in the same caption. (Although from what I can tell, the original film didn't have that credit onscreen, just "A Lucasfilm Ltd Production.")
Anyway, American Grafitti was a major hit and an Oscar nominee for Best Picture, so it stands to reason that Lucas's name would've been relatively familiar to the public by then. After all, back then, theatrical movies ended up being released in edited-for-TV versions within a couple of years of release, so Grafitti was probably showing up regularly on TV by 1977. My own vague recollection is that I was at least aware of the movie around that time and may have seen it on TV.
TIMMAY!!!
So you want gutless fanservice where the new characters are all utterly useless without the OT characters doing everything for them because they're too useless to accomplish anything on their own?
Imagine if Star Trek TNG was really just all about the TOS cast doing everything for the TNG cast.
Really, the first movie should've opened up with the villains killing all the OT cast and then jumping ahead years later for when the new characters would emerge to fight them.
The real problem was that Lucas left nothing for future writers to work with, he left nowhere for new villains to come from.
Yes, based on logical inference from what happened in TFA and what came off as a blatant "last minute switch".
The problem with the sequel has nothing to do with old cast vs new cast. I don't think we should have seen any of the old cast in the first movie, although I did enjoy seeing them there. I also think we should have had a completely new story and not a rehash of the OT. It's not like that universe isn't wide open for story telling.
Meanwhile, in actual Marvel news, the Russo brothers talked to Empire about why they decided to return:
Not that returning to the MCU was an obvious move. “Endgame was the end, and it took a little time for us to begin to think about it as something other than an end,” Anthony Russo tells Empire in a major new interview – sitting down with Joe Russo, and screenwriting duo Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely to talk their ongoing partnership, including on this year’s The Electric State. For the gang, Marvel was never too far away, even after they all left. “We’re very close with Kevin and Lou [D’Esposito, Marvel Studios’ Co-President] and the entire Marvel team and we’ve had conversations through the years. We’ve talked about a lot of ideas,” Anthony Russo says. And then, inspiration for Secret Wars struck. “Really what happened was, we ended up stumbling upon an idea that activated all of us,” he teases. “You couldn’t see it coming until it came, and once it came it was like, ‘Well, that’s a story we need to tell.’”
It wasn’t always a sure thing that the Russos – and McFeely – would return. (Markus is absent this time, keeping projects running at the Russos’ AGBO production company.) “There were ideas that we were trying to wrap our heads around that preceded this one, and we just never found the story,” Joe Russo admits. But it all gelled when McFeely hit on how the Secret Wars comic arc might work in MCU form. “I remember calling Steve and said, ‘Hey, crazy idea. What do you think if we all go back and do Secret Wars?’” Joe Russo says. “You were like, ‘Fuck no. Absolutely not.’ And then you hung up. And the next morning at 7.30 you called and were like, ‘Alright, I have an idea.’”
TNG was a tv series. Not movies and I do recall Kirk.along with Chekov and Scotty showing up in their first movie. Is not fan service just because you use old characters. It would be passing the baton. While old characters would front and center in the first movie of the trilogy the new characters would carrying most of the load for the final two. With the older characters in reduced or supporting roles and by the third movie your big three in Like,:Leia and Han would be dead.
TNG was smart and brave enough to know that if you want new characters to stand alone, they should stand alone and not need older characters to hold their hand 75% of the time.
ANH brought in Obi-Wan and killed him halfway through the first movie instead of keeping him alive in all 3. There's no reason to keep the OT cast alive for more than part of 1 movie.
Ideally they should've started killing them in the OT, like killing Han in ROTJ.
So this is a Star Wars thread now?
Eh, tomorrow it might be a James Bond thread, so...I'm just counting my blessings, personally.
Disney/LFL had an agenda: use the one Black male lead and define him as a tokenized embarrassment by making him a long-lived Hollywood stereotype of Black men: a comedic sanitation worker (of all things he could have been, which rendered the idea of his being a trooper into a meaningless visual), then, he had to be named by Poe (historically dehumanizing to Black people, particularly to descendants in the slave/colonial nations), and he largely screamed and panted throughout TFA. Message from Kennedy, J.J., et al. well received.
Sounds like fodder for a Percival Everett novel when you put it like that.
There's an echo in here, too.
Secret Wars is now going to be called Secret Agent Wars. Chris Evans is going to play Goldfinger.Eh, tomorrow it might be a James Bond thread, so...I'm just counting my blessings, personally.
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Hate to derail this thread with MCU info, but in a bit of casting news that makes me wonder what the hell this series is going to be about Faran Tahir will be reprising his role as 10 Rings terrorist Raza from the original 'Iron Man' in 'Vision Quest'.
deadline.com
Faran Tahir To Reprise ‘Iron Man’ Role In Marvel’s Vision Series For Disney+
Faran Tahir will return to the MCU in Marvel's new Vision series starring Paul Bettany.
deadline.com
Finn being black wasn't even part of the character, because Tom Holland was also in the running for the character during TFA's casting. He was just supposed to be a young guy, being black didn't enter into it. But he wasn't ever meant to be more than a plot device to get Rey into the plot.
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You idiots do realise there's an entire forum for talking shit about Star Wars, right?