Well, it was Captain Lorca, but in hindsight he ended up being from the Mirror Universe so it all turned out making more sense than it deserved to.
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Oh, I stand corrected! I only watched that episode once and my memory is shit.Well, it was Captain Lorca, but in hindsight he ended up being from the Mirror Universe so it all turned out making more sense than it deserved to.
In that case, since it was Mirror Lorca, the line actually makes sense now!
What follows is probably an example of me reading too much into a scene...
I think that Elon Musk scene in Iron Man 2 has aged better than it was intended to. First, I love that Tony just blows Elon off, as if he tolerated Musk only slightly more than he tolerated Justin Hammer. And then, Musk says that he has an idea for an electric plane, and Tony replies "You do? Then we'll make it work". But it's in the way Tony says it-- "YOU do?", as if incredulous at the thought. As if he's really thinking, "Right. Like you had the idea for the electric car and you had the idea for the SpaceX engine, rather than buying the patent and taking credit."
And then, "WE'LL make it work"? Tony knows that Elon can't invent on his own, just like Elon didn't invent the electric car or the Space X engine on his own.
Subtext. I love it.
And let's not forget that season 1 Agents of SHIELD villain Ian Quinn was based whole cloth and unapologetically on Elon Musk.
I think that Elon Musk scene in Iron Man 2 has aged better than it was intended to. First, I love that Tony just blows Elon off, as if he tolerated Musk only slightly more than he tolerated Justin Hammer. And then, Musk says that he has an idea for an electric plane, and Tony replies "You do? Then we'll make it work". But it's in the way Tony says it-- "YOU do?", as if incredulous at the thought. As if he's really thinking, "Right. Like you had the idea for the electric car and you had the idea for the SpaceX engine, rather than buying the patent and taking credit."
And then, "WE'LL make it work"? Tony knows that Elon can't invent on his own, just like Elon didn't invent the electric car or the Space X engine on his own.
Subtext. I love it.
And let's not forget that season 1 Agents of SHIELD villain Ian Quinn was based whole cloth and unapologetically on Elon Musk.
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Disney+ is losing money. Apparently, spending billions on Star Wars and MCU TV shows for the app, and subscriber growth isn't enough to offset those development costs. If only there was a way to sell a hardcopy of the bestselling TV shows, preferably with exclusive content not available on the app, directly to the consumer....maybe they'd be able to be profitable again. I'm sure smarter minds than mine will come up with something.
It's perfectly fine terminology. A division can hemorrhage money despite the company as a whole being profitable. (Hell, I've seen it happen many times myself in past stops throughout my career.) This is the whole meaning of the term "loss-leader."
Unfortunately, I think you're indeed reading far too much into the scene. At the time Iron Man 2 was being filmed in 2009, Elon Musk was still a darling of the technology space, and he hadn't yet ripped off the mask and exposed himself as a Nazi-sympathizing fraud piggybacking on other people's work.
Yeah, I doubt that's how they intended it. However, because of the way the scene was constructed, it's easy to reinterpret that scene in such a manner without much squinting. Not the first time something like that has happened in film or television.
Indeed, I tend to agree with both of you, hence my disclaimer at the top of my post. However, it gives my heart gleeful joy to recontextualize the scene in that manner.
However, there's no doubting the case of Ian Quinn being based on Musk a mere four years later. Quinn's money came from gold mines rather than emerald mines, but his eagerness to take credit for Franklin Hall's work is Musk to a T. Hall even comments on how much money Quinn has made using "free" information.
Then there was this bit of dialogue between Skye / Daisy and Simmons that plays into Musk's public persona at the time--
And while Quinn didn't know all along that he was working for Hydra, he didn't really seem to have any problem with the notion once he found out.
For the record, at the time it aired, I didn't know Quinn was based on Musk, and I even bought into his public persona at the time. I didn't know this until an interview later down the line with Jed Whedon, Marissa Tanchauron and David Bell, and I was rather surprised at the notion. However, looking back on it, it makes perfect sense.
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I was more lamenting the lack of Blue Rays or DVD sets for Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Loki S1&2, Hawkeye, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, etc than buying into Disney's "losses"
Simple fact of the matter is that, unfortunately, physical media is dying a rapid death. Remember that Blu-ray barely accomplished about a fifth of the market penetration that DVD did, and 4K UHD is a fraction of that.
That's what they said about vinyl records, but they seem to have made a comeback.
Uh... Mandalorian S1 & S2 and Loki S1 are on blu-ray. Moon Knight comes out this month.
Loki, Wandavision, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Moon Knight, The Mandalorian, Obi-Wan and Andor have already had (or are soon having) physical releases. With every reason to assume everything else will follow.
To be fair, Superior Iron Man was still extremely competent, and probably richer then normal Tony because he took his brains and business skills and used them with little to none of the ethics/morality of normal Tony Stark. Musk hasn't built anything completely on his own and he is obviously not great at running companies, hes also demonstrably not a genius, if Musk was a super villain I'm imagining more of a rich version of Stilt Man.
Honestly, to me Superior Iron Man is more like if Lex Luthor didn't have a Superman fixation and instead just cared about money, power and partying. I mean, "Superior" Tony fixed Daredevil's vision and then took it away when Daredevil wouldn't work with him, becoming an evil d-bag didn't take away any of Tony Styark's genius, it just made him more dangerous.
And sell for $60 a volume, now, because of how niche they are.
So? They still exist for the tiny number of people (myself included) who want them.
I was referring to the assertion that they've made a "comeback," not that they're extinct. But there's no denying that they're a niche medium--which you yourself admit by saying a "tiny number of people" want them, nor does it refute what I said that physical media is dying a rapid--unfortunate--death.
But they're not dead, which is the point. Alive is alive. "Niche medium" is moving the goalposts.
No, you're setting up artificial goalposts. I never said physical media was dead, I said it was dying a rapid death.
For someone who likes to chide people about reading comprehension, you might want to take some of your own medicine.