Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    19.9%
  2. A

    33.8%
  3. A-

    13.2%
  4. B+

    7.4%
  5. B

    14.0%
  6. B-

    2.2%
  7. C+

    2.2%
  8. C

    3.7%
  9. C-

    1.5%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    2.2%
  1. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    I said that ten pages ago! :p
     
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  2. Ar-Pharazon

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    See the part about not noticing ;)

    Both the poster and your reference.
     
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  4. Turtletrekker

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  5. Reverend

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    That seems like a bit of a stretch to me. We're only talking two writers, one of which was the story editor on 'The Punisher' which had the least amount of connection to anything Marvel out of the whole Marvel Netflix stable, and the other only wrote like two episodes of the third season of Daredevil. Not exactly the creative forces behind it all, or responsible for any particular character's "voice". Granted the latter is also credited as a CEP, but it's always hard to tell when that actually means anything. An EP credit can mean they're the most important creative person on the show, or the least.

    It's even less significant when you start looking up all the other writers that worked on these shows and realise that they've also worked on a LOT of superhero and genre shows from Arrow to Krypton, to Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, Constantine to Umbrella Academy. There's a lot of crosspollination of talent that goes on. And yet these two? Not so much.

    I'm not saying it's insignificant per see (and certainly not denigrating anyone's talent or past contributions), but in this particular case I don't think it's as significant as that article would have people believe.
     
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  6. Anwar

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    Getting the "Creative Force" behind DD and Punisher means getting Jeph Loeb. And he's the last thing the MCU needs.
     
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  8. kirk55555

    kirk55555 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'm not too thrilled if this was true. I liked DD Season 1, but even it had the same pacing issues of all the Marvel Netflix shows (feeling like 8-9 episode series stretched out to 13). Plus, we definitely don't need anyone who worked on the show post Season 1, considering how terrible Season 2 was and how the show ruined characters like Elektra and Bullseye.
     
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    Why? If he has some good ideas, bring him in!
     
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  10. StCoop

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    Moon Knight trailer is coming on Monday so looks like it's this, then She-Hulk then Ms. Marvel for the first half of the year on D+

     
  11. The Nth Doctor

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    Awesome.

    And I renew my annoyance at teasers for trailers. :scream:

    (I know, I know, a lost cause...)
     
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  12. Turtletrekker

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    But if they could get Steven S DeKnight?
     
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  13. Booji

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    The first seasons of DD and Punisher are still better than anything produced by Marvel Studios for TV. If Loeb had anything to do with s1 of Jessica Jones, you can add that to the list too.
     
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  14. Anwar

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    Beh, compare the first 6 episodes of DD S1 and Punisher S1 to all of WandaVision, Falcon/Winter Soldier, Loki and Hawkeye....the Disney Plus shows did more in the same amount of time. And were better acted and plotted. DD and Punisher wasted time trying to be "Grounded Crime Dramas".
     
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  15. StCoop

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    Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
     
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  16. EnderAKH

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    Hard disagree. I personally enjoyed WandaVision, Loki, and Hawkeye more than any of DD or Punisher. JJ season 1 is my favorite of the Netflix shows, but that was largely due to the transcendent performance of David Tennant. Season 2 was lesser without him, and I was so bored with season 2 I never watched season 3. DD and Punisher could have done with a bit of tightening up the pace. I agree with others who have argued they told 8 or 10 episodes worth of story in 13. Meanwhile I love the D+ Marvel shows to pieces.
     
  17. Booji

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    The Marvel Studios shows are paint by numbers with predictable, typical Marvel endings. I like them, but I'll take s1 of DD, JJ & Punisher over them any day.
     
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    Thankfully, it’s not a zero sum game. And if it gets me labelled easily pleased, I don’t care. I have enjoyed or loved everything Marvel produced for Netflix or D+.

    The only thing I’ve not enjoyed/even finished is Inhumans. You ask me it was inhuman to even release that.
     
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  19. Anwar

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    Fixed.

    At least the Disney Plus shows don't run out of plot halfway through their seasons like JJ and Luke Cage kept falling apart.
     
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  20. crookeddy

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    Wanda vision is top level all time great television. Loki is top level all time genre television. Both are classics. Daredevil and Jessica Jones were top tier but not quite all timers.
     
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