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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Yeah, I guess I can see that.
Christopher said:
Most did, but the Captain America pilot movies didn't. And Filmation's Shazam! featured no comics characters other than Billy Batson/Captain Marvel. So TIH wasn't quite unique in that respect.
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Never seen those, and I honestly forgot they even existed until I saw this post.

I do agree that it might've been interesting to have General Ross as a recurring antagonist, though the show's budget wouldn't have allowed for a lot in the way of military confrontations. It was an expensive show as it was, what with the location filming and all the stunt work and strength gags. So it made more sense to have a civilian adversary like Jack McGee. Ross might have worked only as an occasional guest star, maybe showing up a couple of times per season. (Maybe he could even have been played by John Vernon, who voiced Ross in the '90s animated series opposite Lou Ferrigno as the Hulk.)
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I can see where that makes sense, trying to do the military thing on a regular basis probably could get pretty expensive.

Betty wouldn't have worked as an ongoing love interest, probably, since David Banner's love interests had a tendency to die dramatically in the rain. And having Rick Jones tagging along wouldn't have fit very well with the whole "Lonely Man" approach.
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I didn't even consider that with Betty, I guess maybe it is a good thing she didn't show up.
As for Rick, I wouldn't necessarily mean for him to have been a regular part of the show, even just a one off appearance could have been fun.
I think there was actually an attempt by the network to convince Kenneth Johnson to add Rick Jones or an equivalent sidekick character, along with an RV that could provide a standing set and ease the budget demands somewhat, but Johnson stood firmly against changing the format.
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I've never heard that before, but I can see where it would have been a pretty drastic change to the show.[/QUOTE]
 
Christopher said:
For instance, the character-creator credits in the animated Young Justice list Marv Wolfman and George Perez as the creators of Nightwing, rather than Bill Finger, Bob Kane, and Jerry Robinson, who created Dick Grayson.)
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IIRC, when Marv & George created Nightwing, it was purely to get the character out from under the Batman editor's purview, as there were things they wanted to do with Dick that said editor (Denny maybe?) didn't want done with Robin. Since YJ has both Robin and Nightwing, there probably are credits for Kane & Finger in eps Robin is in.

Hmm... I wonder how they did it in Titans since Dick doesn't become Nightwing until season 2?

Anyway, probably a bit of a nightmare in situations like that.
 
If you go back to page 408 there was a poster leaked that confirmed the looks of Thor and Jane



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It's not a movie level type of poster but more something you see at Walmart.
 
Turtletrekker said:
The rumor mill has Marvel hiring writers from Daredevil and The Punisher to work on Echo.

https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2022/01/08/echo-writers-punisher-daredevil/
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That seems like a bit of a stretch to me. We're only talking two writers, one of which was the story editor on 'The Punisher' which had the least amount of connection to anything Marvel out of the whole Marvel Netflix stable, and the other only wrote like two episodes of the third season of Daredevil. Not exactly the creative forces behind it all, or responsible for any particular character's "voice". Granted the latter is also credited as a CEP, but it's always hard to tell when that actually means anything. An EP credit can mean they're the most important creative person on the show, or the least.

It's even less significant when you start looking up all the other writers that worked on these shows and realise that they've also worked on a LOT of superhero and genre shows from Arrow to Krypton, to Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, Constantine to Umbrella Academy. There's a lot of crosspollination of talent that goes on. And yet these two? Not so much.

I'm not saying it's insignificant per see (and certainly not denigrating anyone's talent or past contributions), but in this particular case I don't think it's as significant as that article would have people believe.
 
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Getting the "Creative Force" behind DD and Punisher means getting Jeph Loeb. And he's the last thing the MCU needs.
 
Turtletrekker said:
The rumor mill has Marvel hiring writers from Daredevil and The Punisher to work on Echo.

https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2022/01/08/echo-writers-punisher-daredevil/
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I'm not too thrilled if this was true. I liked DD Season 1, but even it had the same pacing issues of all the Marvel Netflix shows (feeling like 8-9 episode series stretched out to 13). Plus, we definitely don't need anyone who worked on the show post Season 1, considering how terrible Season 2 was and how the show ruined characters like Elektra and Bullseye.
 
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