Lt.Kyle
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Those many people are just like us. Speculators. They are probably working from the same info we have.
Lot of Scotts in the world and not all are from Scotland. Heck, the current Secretary of State for Texas is John B Scott. If Doohan had managed a Texas accent, Scott might very well have been a Texan.
Kirk: I need more power, Scotty!
Scott: I'll see if I can round up a few more horses, Cap'n.
Scott and Uhura's backgrounds are well established in TOS. Kyle's not so much.
Does Kyle have a background?
Greetings from post #326Perhaps Kyle is now the Star Fleet slang word for anybody who operates the Transporter.
I have a question that might mean determining if this Kyle is the old Kyle is important. One of the reasons Why Enterprise had T'pol instead of T'Pau from what I understand was so they would not have to pay royalties or money to the writer who created the T'Pau character on TOS.
Would something like this be in effect in this situation? If he is suppose to be the old Kyle then maybe they have to pay the writer or that writers family who invented the character some money. On the other hand if he is just some random dude with the last name then maybe they don't. Could he be Asian just so they get to keep the reference while at the same time saving themselves the money they would pay out if they were more specific in making fans know this is the old Kyle?
Would something like this be in effect in this situation? If he is suppose to be the old Kyle then maybe they have to pay the writer or that writers family who invented the character some money. On the other hand if he is just some random dude with the last name then maybe they don't. Could he be Asian just so they get to keep the reference while at the same time saving themselves the money they would pay out if they were more specific in making fans know this is the old Kyle?
Played by an English actor who thought he was doing an Australian accent, is all I got.
Clearly a Martian.
J'onn K'yle
John Winston. Star Trek's Graham Chapman.
He was a very naughty boy. Unless he wasn't.
He was a very naughty boy. Unless he wasn't.
Right, enough of this! This thread is in danger of becoming too silly!
Sorry, I just skipped through the thread willy-nilly and obviously missed your insightful remark.
No.
The TOS episodes featuring Kyle weren't all written by the same person, IIRC.
In any case, since Kyle (on both shows) is basically just a background character, there's no rule I'm aware of which demanded they change the race of the character for SNW. Royalties be damned.
Although there's still no evidence they've done that. We don't even know if it's intended to be the same Kyle...it's a common enough name.
Hell, James Bond is Scottish and then he's Australian and then he's English...
even Star Trek's Q couldn't keep up with all of that change.
even Star Trek's Q couldn't keep up with all of that change.
Then for a few years he was Irish!
Seven to be precise!
In other words, not enough people to reasonably make a thing of this.
I don't know with certainty, but I think WGA contracts have different rules for characters created by writers who are permanently on staff and characters created by freelance writers. Paramount would have owed the Estate of Theodore Sturgeon royalties for using T'Pau on Star Trek: Enterprise because Sturgeon was a freelancer rather than a Norway Productions (the production company Gene Roddenberry used to produce TOS for Desliu) staffer when he wrote "Amok Time." Since Lt. Kyle first appeared in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," written by D.C. Fontana who was on staff with Norway, I think that means her estate might not be due anything. But I'm not 100% confident of this, and if anyone has better information I'll defer to them.
Lacarno wasn't used because they felt the character was irredeemable.
Yeah, I'm not clear whether they created Paris rather than use Lacarno because of royalty obligations or because they felt Lacarno had gone too far to make him a leading man on a weekly series.
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