Lower Decks Trailer Analysis

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by NCC-73515, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. fireproof78

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    I do like flawed Trek, as well as flawed protagonists. So, while streaming Trek is arguably flawed I do not think it is fatally flawed. If so, then, well, a lot of other Treks are too. But, I'm willing to be that most Trek fans love their Treks, flaws and all. Streaming Trek is no different to me.

    However, and this is shifting towards my perspective, one interesting part of streaming Trek is that the more people hate it the more that I like it. I may not even care for the characters but seeing the push back makes it more appealing to me.

    So, perhaps, like you, I'll be screaming for more flawed Trek :D
     
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  2. daedalus5

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    Trailer looks good. Set in TNG era, so lots to look forward to. I think best watched with a glass of wine....
     
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  3. eschaton

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    I will say there seems to have been a bit of a walkback in streaming drama from "one giant episode with no concrete breaks." Off the top of my head:
    • The last season of Stranger Things experimented with that one standalone about the psychic kids living in the city (even if it didn't work out that well).
    • The Witcher is pretty clearly so far only a semi-serialized series (which makes sense, since the Geralt bits were adapted from short stories).
    • The Amazon show Tales from the Loop was a quasi-anthology.
    Certainly I feel like showrunners are getting back into the idea that episodes can be something more concrete than just a "slice of the arc." Hell, even Kurtzman Trek so far has been more often semi-serialized than fully serialized, insofar as the individual episodes are mostly "about something."

    I blame Kurtzman for the epic stakes - it's pretty clear that he's the one who's forcing them to include that in every season (Chabon openly said if it were up to him there would be a whole season of Picard and his two Romulan caretakers solving low-stakes mysteries in the local village). I think the "can't stick the landing" thing is basically because there's too many cooks in the kitchen. Well-done highly serialized dramas are basically overseen from inception by 1-2 people given near total control, or else they're based upon an existing book series or something where no serious arc work is needed. So far not a single showrunner for Kurtzman Trek has stayed on for longer than a year, which means there is no grand narrative and no one really "owns" the shows.
     
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  4. Lord Garth

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    I wonder then if it's a generation gap? Even though there's not too much of an age difference between me and other posters I've disagreed with.

    I was President of the Anime Club at my college in the early-2000s (while I was also a moderator on TrekBBS), so I know that goes.
     
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  5. flandry84

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    Why not treat it as a programme made for people like Tom Paris?
    An in-series in-joke?
     
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  6. BillJ

    BillJ Canon Warrior Premium Member

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    People would probably then treat it as a joke and not bother with it.
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    The ship doesn't appear to have visible shuttle bays on the outside of the ship, but there is a shuttlebay on the MSD.

    Edit: Although, these could be shuttlebays

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  8. flandry84

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    Um,it’s a comedic cartoon so...
     
  9. Lord Garth

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    It also might make people think of "These Are the Voyages". Not what they want to go for.
     
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  10. The Wormhole

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    "Well, of course the woman doesn't know how to operate a phaser. SEXIST!"
    And/or
    "Well, of course they have the white person screw up. Can't afford to let minorities look incompetent. WOKE AGENDA!"
     
  11. thribs

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    I’m smelling a romance between those two characters.
     
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  12. Jayson1

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    I thought she was faking not knowing the phaser was set on kill in order to kill his white privilege or was that a bad read?


    Jason
     
  13. thribs

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    I’m pretty sure the phaser would be set on stun as default. Also a phaser on kill would set the alarms off.
     
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  14. cooleddie74

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    I'm not crazy about the Cerritos but at least it looks more or less like a TNG/DS9/VOY Era Starfleet ship and everything gives me the right feel.
     
  15. Jayson1

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    Starfleet changed that rule after Star Trek 6. People got sick and tired of hearing the alarms going off every time pranksters would set it to kill and then back to stun again in the middle of night pissing off many of Captains.


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  16. Lord Garth

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    I think it must've been a short-lived rule. Chekov was Cheif of Security in TMP, so if the alarms going off with the phasers set to kill was a thing back then, he would've known about it.
     
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  18. The Wormhole

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    If that's the case, why do they always order "set phasers to stun" and why do we always see everyone adjusting their phasers when the order is given.
    No, only if it vaporizes something. That was why in TUC Valeris killed her co-conspirators but didn't vaporize them.
     
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  19. thribs

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    They probably say that to check, and I thought she killed them by stun at close range.
     
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  20. fireproof78

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    Valeris' follow up line is not helpful though: VALERIS: At ease. As you know, Commander Chekov, no one can fire an unauthorised phaser aboard a starship
     
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