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Probably like Crematoria in the Riddick movies you should avoid places with names like Lamentis.
Yeah, that's how I felt about Infinity Wars. Thanos? Quelle surprise.
Oh, how I've come to loathe that word...
Why the link to Enchantresses sisters bio?
Not exactly a high bar to clear.
Back on, say, TNG or DS9, when they did a character development episode, then completely forgot or ignored that development right away, what should it be called?
Apples and oranges.
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Because I searched for "enchantress" on the MCU Fandom site and it brought Lorelai up.
I’m reasonably sure that Sylvie is a Loki variant, just one who split off a long time ago. I’m thinking that the TVA is trying to keep the timeline from branching into any alternate universe for reasons that haven’t really been revealed. Sylvie at an early age decided to identify as female instead of male like Loki and had to be pruned or reset. Either she managed to escape or was kept at the TVA until she was old enough to be useful as a worker and then escaped, but she’s trying to take them down for taking her life away and the lives of every single variant who was ever pruned or reset. If not for the TVA she’d just be an alternate universe Loki.Whew! That was a lot of fun. Not only that, but rock quarries! A time-honored tradition among time travelers!
I absolutely loved the bickering banter between Loki and Sylvie as they navigated they way through the Lamentis apocalypse and managed to create a cautious truce between each other. While not much happened plot wise, I enjoyed how the episode took the time to develop the relationship between the untrusting two as they learned about each other's pasts and what made who they are now.
Considering what was discussed this past week after learning the Spanish credits called the female Loki Sylvie and everything we saw in this episode (particularly the repeated use of enchantment and the like), it does seem like Sylvie is more like the Enchantress and less so a female variant of Loki. We only have the TVA's word for it that Sylvie is a variant and she particularly doesn't like being called that or Loki. I suppose the simplest answer is she actually is a female variant who just happens to take on the attributes of the Enchantress and who doesn't want to be weighed down by labels connectingh her to variations of herself, but I can't help wonder if it's more to it than that. That said, I'm probably just overthinking this whole thing a la WandaVision (also, I don't really know anything about the Enchantress beyond what's been discussed in this thread).
I'm still not quite sure what Loki's goals are right now beyond riding alongside Sylvie as she tries to resume her machinations against the TVA, but he certainly lit up when he made the realization that TVA agents have no idea they're actually all variants and not created by the Timekeepers like they believe. That revelation certainly adds credence that there is something rotten to the core about the TVA and the Timekeepers. Loki clearly has a driving motivation now.
I also really liked the way they handled Loki’s bisexuality.
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TNG and DS9 were 26 episode long seasons, even with DS9 most episodes didn't further the main story.
For heavily serialized shows with fewer episodes some episodes could be called 'Filler'. But character development is not inherently 'filler'. It frames the way you see everything else.
For heavily serialized shows with fewer episodes some episodes could be called 'Filler'. But character development is not inherently 'filler'. It frames the way you see everything else.
DS9 didn't really start serializing until S5, and didn't do so all that regularly until S6.
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I may be misinterpreting, but I got the impression that her choice of gender identity (and accompanying name) are a very specific reaction to distinguish herself from all the other Loki variants. Which if so indicates two things; that whatever made her a variant probably wasn't said choice in and of itself (cart before the horse and all that), and that she's encountered (and possibly killed) a LOT of Lokis in her time.
It didn't actually occur to me that she might have been a rogue consultant (or maybe the mysterious "other analyst") at the TVA, but it certainly explains how she evaded oblivion long enough to become a threat. It wouldn't even be a contradiction that nobody there remembers her since it's already established that their minds can and have been wiped at least once.
Now that I think about it, is it possible she was indeed raised on Asgard and her line about her mother being an almost forgotten memory is rather more literal? It seems to make a little more sense than the TVA raising a baby frost giant...
Loki is gender fluid and a shapeshifter, so gender presentation is largely as personal to him as wardrobe. So Sylvie presenting as female as her default form seems to be the one she’s most comfortable with. It’s also notable that Loki never questions this since it’s likely something he’s considered doing himself but didn’t. I’m assuming that this decision is where Loki and Sylvie split. The sacred timeline states that Loki is supposed to present as male, so Sylvie got picked up by the TVA. Given that the propaganda film mentioned that the split can occur due to something as mundane as being late for work, it’s a wonder there aren’t more Lokis.
Something that has occurred to me, this show is a lot like Doctor Who in a way. Loki is the Doctor, the TVA is Gallifrey. There are adventures across time and space. The folks at the TVA are the Time Lords, the mysterious Timekeepers are the mythological Time Lords like Rassillon, Omega, the Other. The storyline with Sylvie is basically a multi-Doctor team up.
It's hard for a TV season that only has 6 episodes to have "filler" so I think those saying this episode is such a thing is being a bit... harsh. While I personally see this episode as my "least" favorite of the three that've aired so far and only because "something" has to be in last place and it's just in a barely-there last place. Like the Gold, Bronze and Copper runners in the Olympics are fractions of a second apart.
The first two episodes I liked the interactions between Own Wilson and Loki and just some of the "antics" and Time Travel stuff (to Earth) happening. This was still, though a very good episode and did well on the character build up with Enchantress/Female Loki/Sylvie and interaction between her and Loki.
It was a good episode.
Filler? Not in the least.
I don't totally disagree with you, but there are some considerations...
Loki, and presumably Sylvie, have been around for thousands of years. Loki became a "variant" fairly recently. When did Sylvie?
Sylvie does not have "our" Loki's powers, which he learned from Frigga. She enchants others. Can she shapeshift? According to her, she just enchants.
I really don't see that Sylvie has been growing up and living her entre life with some kind of intent to reject being "another Loki" or even reject being male. She has been living her life as herself. If (and I'm not truly convinced) Sylvie is "a Loki", she is the only Loki she has ever known, and gender-fluid or not, she is comfortable and happy with who she is. I don't see anything in the story that indicates she wasn't this person all along. She's not rebelling against other timelines' versions of Loki, she simply is Sylvie.
Other than being adopted, if we trust her word on everything, we know nothing about her history. If she had a choice of gender, she may have chosen when she was six months old. Or six weeks before this series started. I love the character but we can't say anything about who or what she was beforehand, or if she actually has a choice of gender.
She has never agreed that she is "a Loki." All we have is the declaration of the TVA. And as I posted before, hands up if you believe everything they say.
If a variant manages to avoid the TVA long enough to have a kid, would that kid also be a variant? Technically they didn't split off from another version of themselves.
This came to mind because I was wonder if maybe it was one of her parents, Laufey or her mother, or even Odin or Frigga, that split off from the "Sacred Timeline" before she was born, and they managed to avoid getting trimmed long enough for her to be born. If she was never really Loki as we know him, that could explain why her history and abilities seem to be so different from his.
This came to mind because I was wonder if maybe it was one of her parents, Laufey or her mother, or even Odin or Frigga, that split off from the "Sacred Timeline" before she was born, and they managed to avoid getting trimmed long enough for her to be born. If she was never really Loki as we know him, that could explain why her history and abilities seem to be so different from his.
Have you not seen the clip showing her being brought into the TVA as a young girl?
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