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Little things in Trek that just bug you...

The guys said they wore girdles just like the ladies
For their roles on the show it could be expected.
Since it was supposed to be a Utopian future far people would be non-existent.
I thought that they might have killed off Riker and replaced him........,
 
Weeelll, this I'm sure there were a couple crewmen I'd have loved to see in something a tad more revealing. It's pretty silly to have downright skintight, pyjama-looking uniforms to begin with. Why not make it a little sillier and have rqual opportunity hotness? :bolian:
 
Grace Lee Whitney, who played Yeoman Rand, did not like having to wear trousers like the males. Thus, the miniskirt uniform was born.

We today forget that for a couple short years there, the miniskirt was seen as an expression of feminism, women's liberation, more open sexuality, etc. For centuries, the patriarchy had been telling women that they had to cover themselves up in order to be considered "proper," and here was a way to challenge those old mores.

Kor
Lol
More of the pathetic actions.
I guess I just can't agree with all of the phoniness of women.
My thought is that in the future this would change.
I wish the shows about the future portrayed it in this fashion instead of the 'women should be obscene, not heard' arena.
 
Lol
More of the pathetic actions.
I guess I just can't agree with all of the phoniness of women.
My thought is that in the future this would change.
I wish the shows about the future portrayed it in this fashion instead of the 'women should be obscene, not heard' arena.
It may have been set in the future but it was still women in the 60s
 
Weeelll, this I'm sure there were a couple crewmen I'd have loved to see in something a tad more revealing. It's pretty silly to have downright skintight, pyjama-looking uniforms to begin with. Why not make it a little sillier and have rqual opportunity hotness? :bolian:
I think Riker would have looked fine in the cheerleader dress.
And in later seasons a tight, dark blue boat neck long dress and some tasteful open toe shoes, 3 or 4 inch heel, wavy shoulder length hair. I think that would have been good.
Picard would have looked good in a tight black/ blue v-neck t-shirt, and black tights and maybe something simple like ballet slippers, black.
Otherwise on the ship everyone should've wearing the same uniform.
 
Westerns are different as a historical genre because we know what people actually wore at that time.

Sci-fi is all conjecture of a time that hasn't happened yet. For better or worse, sci-fi clothing designs tend to reflect what is considered contemporary or cutting-edge at the time the production is made.

Kor
 
Ridiculous.
Being current with the fashion trends of the times should not be part of the consideration when acting in a movie or TV show. The role one is playing dictates the attaire not the mood of the actress. Ditto for whether or not they think they are attractive.
Is it possible that there were male actors that thought they looked pretty good too?
Did someone design a short sleeve uniform specifically for that actor to be able to show off his muscular arms?
No.
Because men on TV/ movies receive about 1/100th as much objectification as women.
Pretty much, Being an Object is the only reason for women in most movies/tv shows.
We got a feminist here.
 
We got a feminist here.

Yes, there are several of us.

I get that miniskirts are an issue that bugs some people. In my mind, futurewear, especially in an expansive intercultural galaxy can be anything, everything, and perhaps nothing, but as a standard uniform design it seems out of place.

Trek has answered the miniskirt issue in varied ways. By removing them as soon as possible (TMP), by attempting to adapt them for men too (early TNG), and by treating them as a joke (Trials and Tribble-ations). There was pushback when the Abrams films used some miniskirt uniforms. And Discovery notably has no such uniform in their two designs (lining up with The Cage on at least this issue).

TOS treats women horribly a few times during its run, from The Cage ("women on the bridge?!") to Turnabout Intruder ("Your world of Starfleet Captains does not admit women!"), that are all products of its time, and are often rightfully ignored or circumvented in later Star Trek media. The miniskirts are the least of its problems.
 
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Yes, there are several of us.

I get that miniskirts are an issue that bugs some people. In my mind, futurewear, especially in an expansive intercultural galaxy can be anything, everything, and perhaps nothing, but as a standard uniform design it seems out of place.

Trek has answered the miniskirt issue in varied ways. By removing them as soon as possible (TMP), by attempting to adapt them for men too (early TNG), and by treating them as a joke (Trials and Tribble-ations). There was pushback when the Abrams films used some miniskirt uniforms. And Discovery notably has no such uniform in their two designs (lining up with The Cage on at least this issue).

TOS treats women horribly a few times during its run, from The Cage ("women on the bridge?!") to Turnabout Intruder ("Your world of Starfleet Captains does not admit women!"), that are all products of its time, and are often rightfully ignored or circumvented in later Star Trek media. The miniskirts are the least of its problems.
TOS also had a female Romulan commander and many of the episodes were written by women. Roddenberry wanted a female second in command but NBC wouldn't allow it
 
TOS also had a female Romulan commander and many of the episodes were written by women. Roddenberry wanted a female second in command but NBC wouldn't allow it
The network was fine with having a woman as First Officer. What they didn't like was Majel Barrett, an actress with limited experience, playing what would have been a regular role in a weekly series just because she happened to be the producer's girlfriend (mistress, actually, since G.R. was still married to first wife Eileen at the time).

The Roddenberry version -- that the reactionary old NBC suits didn't want a female second-in-command -- has been pretty thoroughly debunked.
 
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