Because he doesn't want people who like the new ST to have fun? If he doesn't enjoy it, nobody is allowed to?
News Kurtzman’s contract extended
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Would like them to speak for themselves. Genuinely curious as to the perspective that if Star Trek "remained dead" what that would mean, vs. if someone just ignores the current output, while allowing others to enjoy it.
I say this a lot, but I don't like TNG but I don't demand it stop existing. I certainly could though. I might make more friends
No one has deified any corporation or claimed that Paramount/CBS doesn't make mistakes. Promoting Kurtzman may blow up their faces someday. But as of this moment they like what he's done with Star Trek and he has been rewarded for it. It's really that simple. All the links in the world and three hour YouTube rants won't change that fact. He's not "falling up".I find the deification of corporations misguided. This notion that "corporations don't make wrong decisions", "corporations always know their business", and "ViacomCBS made decision X, so it has to be the right decision" wrong.
Corporations constantly make wrong business decisions. Corporations constantly misjudge the marketplace and customer demand.
And ViacomCBS made many bad business decisions in the past.
ViacomCBS is in trouble.
Multiple news outlets did report about a ViacomCBS/Comcast merger/partnership:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/comcas...-to-discuss-streaming-partnership-11626743478
https://deadline.com/2021/07/comcast-viacomcbs-lionsgate-media-mergers-earnings-1234794833/
https://nypost.com/2021/07/17/amid-mega-mergers-and-acquisitions-viacomcbs-may-be-in-play/
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/com...ider-partnership-to-bolster-streaming-tv.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnch...ors-said-to-include-talk-of-something-bigger/
http://www.nickalive.net/2020/12/nickelodeon-takes-ratings-hit-in-2020.html
Exactly. Whether people agree with CBS or not they are clearly satisfied with the current output, and success of Kurtzman's work to the point that they keep him on rather than moving him to a position of less influence. Whether or not that is the right decision will be born out over time.
I never quite understood the "I wish modern Trek didn't exist" crowd.
Does everyone love it? Clearly not. Do I love everything about it? No. Do I wish it could be better/more to my taste? Sure!
But the best way of getting better Trek is having Trek in the first place and building an audience. Perhaps it makes me a "corporate shill" but I'll take anything Alex Kurtzman can shit out than nothing at all.
Does everyone love it? Clearly not. Do I love everything about it? No. Do I wish it could be better/more to my taste? Sure!
But the best way of getting better Trek is having Trek in the first place and building an audience. Perhaps it makes me a "corporate shill" but I'll take anything Alex Kurtzman can shit out than nothing at all.
Deification? No. Extending Kurtzman is Viacom’s call to make. They must have some reason for keeping him around, and it is likely the financials of the current product.
Then just don’t watch it, and it is as good as dead for you.
Same.
But, more and more what I tend to see is this idea that Star Trek used to be special and now it isn't because it is a corporate product, ignoring of course all the times it was completely a product and designed to entertain and make money.
A corporation's first priority is to make money. Kurtzman's Star Trek is clearly making them money, otherwise they would not put a deal in place to keep Kurtzman around for the next five years if the previous four years his Star Trek shows have been on weren't profitable.
Now you clearly don't like Kurtzman, and he is hedonistic, but your opinion of the man and his hedonism are not factors Viacom/CBS/Paramount/Whoever considers when making their decisions.
No way, Gene was definitely doing it entirely selflessly and absolutely didn't try to profit from his "vision".
I'm pretty indifferent to most of his output. Viacom sees things differently. Life goes on.
Unless he is hurting someone, this isn't anyone's damned business but his.
Tomalak is...He's hurting Gene's Vision! Won't someone please think of Gene's Vision?!
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No way, Gene was definitely doing it entirely selflessly and absolutely didn't try to profit from his "vision".
Woah, woah, woah, are we saying that Alex Kurtzman, of all people, is hedonistic? This is the first I've heard about it. He seems kind of milquetoast, what with his long-term marriage (almost 20 years!) and general non-dramatic private life.
He's got a lot of catching up to do if he wants to reach the hedonistic levels of previous Star Trek showrunners.
He's got a lot of catching up to do if he wants to reach the hedonistic levels of previous Star Trek showrunners.
You didn't hear? Him, Abrams and Orci are a clique of raging hedonists, always lying on sofas shirtless while servants drop grapes into their mouths during their meetings on how to ruin Star Trek and enrage The Fans.
This is who we just turned the franchise over to for the next five years! Oh, the humanity!
My biggest issue with NuTrek is that it's so repetitive. I mean, sure, most of old Trek, was episodic, but NuTrek was supposed to be, well, new, and yet they are already reusing the same action scenes and plotlines movie to movie, series to series (How many times have we seen main characters jump through space now? Disco season 2 and Picard Season 2 both focused on evil AI, small universe syndrome in spades, etc.).
I'd have liked someone knew brought in to try and switch that up but whatever. It's still fine to watch.
I think Kurtzman just lucked into this job. Orci was supposed to take over Bad Robot Trek, then got fired, and Fuller was supposed to do TV Trek, then got fired. Kurtzman was last man standing
Speaking of Orci, looks like he hasn't been doing anything since. Probably a good thing. I can only imagine what his Covid opinions are, considering his conspiracy theory insanity.
I'd have liked someone knew brought in to try and switch that up but whatever. It's still fine to watch.
I think Kurtzman just lucked into this job. Orci was supposed to take over Bad Robot Trek, then got fired, and Fuller was supposed to do TV Trek, then got fired. Kurtzman was last man standing
Speaking of Orci, looks like he hasn't been doing anything since. Probably a good thing. I can only imagine what his Covid opinions are, considering his conspiracy theory insanity.
I'll admit, it would be nice if they could go at least one season of any show without dealing with the galactic apocalypse. Maybe SNW?
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