Simple. I don't assume I've seen every member of a species based upon a small sample. Also, years and years of watching science fiction.How exactly could you come to any other conclusion given the on-screen material?
How exactly could you come to any other conclusion given the on-screen material?
Simple. I don't assume I've seen every member of a species based upon a small sample. Also, years and years of watching science fiction.
Cultural trend. We have chemical hair removal now. A species that has been building starships since the 14th century has to have a way to remove hair man.
Agree to disagree on this point. If we saw no bald Klingons in TOS could I argue that there are no bald Klingons period? Possibly, but it would be suspect at best.The thing is not that there *were bald klingons.
The problem was that all klingons were bald. Not just "a small sample". But many samples representating all the various parts of the klingon empire, from geographical differences to the past to alternate universes. Arguing there were haired klingons in S1 is as useless as arguing there were purple humans. You can't "prove" something doesn't exist. But there is significance evidence for said absence. In this case: A statistical significant, representative sample size standing in for all accepted variances - and in that very diverse sample size, not a single hair was found.
They were genetically bald in S1. And now, under new creative leadership, they aren't anymore. It's really that easy. And I laud the new showrunners for doing this step. And even more so for coming up with a mostly convincing explanation as well! That's really the icing on the cake. But arguing that this wasn't the case is frankly ridiculous.
The thing is not that there *were bald klingons.
The problem was that all klingons were bald. Not just "a small sample". But many samples representating all the various parts of the klingon empire, from geographical differences to the past to alternate universes. Arguing there were haired klingons in S1 is as useless as arguing there were purple humans. You can't "prove" something doesn't exist. But there is significance evidence for said absence. In this case: A statistical significant, representative sample size standing in for all accepted variances - and in that very diverse sample size, not a single hair was found.
We only see the warrior cast. you are making wild assumptions not shown on the show. You are claiming they were bald as a species, yet nothing on the show says this or hints at this.
When we see the flashback to T'Kuvma's childhood - getting beat up by the other teenagers - everyone is bald as well.
When we see the flashback to T'Kuvma's childhood - getting beat up by the other teenagers - everyone is bald as well.
I do not recall this, are you sure you are not talking about the comics?
Is it better than what we got for the ridges? Definitely. Is it the best they could have done? Not quite, I guess. But it's what we have come to expect, now that the people writing Star Trek are all fans of Star Trek and able to browse through Memory Alpha (and TrekBBS!) at will...
I just hope they won't start playing safe now. S4 of ENT was fun in its own gratuitous way. A S5 on the same format would have been difficult to watch without cringing. By all means re-retcon the retcons. But don't stop throwing curveballs at us, please!
Is Occam's razor what they used to cut their hair?They should have just kept them bald and called the show a reboot. Occam’s razor and all that...
Actually, other ships having their own patches was the mistake, but it just stuck.
The revelation didn’t come out until decades later after it became part of the “lore”.
There's nothing in the lore that says holograms didn't exist before the 2260s
*hides*
Edit:
Ah damn it, foiled by the lack of working size tags.
In "Flashback" (VOY), it's commented that there was holographic imaging of some kind during the TOS era (Sulu had a holographic photo taken of him that was still around a century later). There was also the rec room from "The Practical Joker" (TAS).
So, holography had to exist. I think that them using them for communications was a bad idea when we saw the "first" such tech in "For the Uniform" (DS9) a century "later," but hey, it's not that much worse then explaining the TAS rec room when we factually know that holodeck technology didn't exist in the TOS era.
(heck, "Court Martial" itself disproves the universal emblem with the brass wearing their own badge).
Cool, but this does not change anything I said however. Klingons use painsticks in teenagers, what makes you think they have any issues waxing em?In "Battle at the Binary Stars" there was a scene showing young T'Kuvma and other bald "Younglings". No sign of hair...
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