Kirk and Klingons

[KlingonMaster]

Did captain Kirk ever battle Klingons? I can't find any historical data that said he did or that said he didn't.

I'm pretty sure he didn't because I don't remember any Klingon beating him up which is what would happen because the klingons are waaaay stronger than humans especially humans like Kirk and Dr McCord.

Were they invented like in the 1990's in the other series or did they actually start in the original series like in the 1970's?

 

[KlingonMaster]

I've done some more research and I came upon like 100 other aliens and races and creatures that the original crew fought against for years and years but nothing in the form of a Klingon yet. Am I looking for the right place? I could a sworn that Klingons were one of the earliest races in the galaxy and probably the first to fight against the Earthlings.

 

[Greg Cox]

The Klingons were invented long before the 1990s. They first appeared back in 1966's "Errand of Mercy" and returned in numerous episodes of the original STAR TREK television series, including "The Trouble with Tribbles," "A Private Little War," "Friday's Child," and "Day of the Dove."

And, just to nitpick, that was back in the 1960s, not the 1970s.

The Klingons also appeared in several of the original STAR TREK movies, beginning with STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE back in 1979.

 

[KlingonMaster]

The Klingons were invented long before the 1990s. They first appeared back in 1966's "Errand of Mercy" and returned in numerous episodes of the original STAR TREK television series, including "The Trouble with Tribbles," "A Private Little War," "Friday's Child," and "Day of the Dove."

And, just to nitpick, that was back in the 1960s, not the 1970s.

The Klingons also appeared in several of the original STAR TREK movies, beginning with STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE back in 1979.

Ok thanks! I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the Klingons in th first star trek movie though. Kahn didn't come in until the second one when they were fighting over finding the genisis.

 

[Greg Cox]

Ok thanks! I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the Klingons in th first star trek movie though. Kahn didn't come in until the second one when they were fighting over finding the genisis.

Nope. I'm not wrong. A Klingon ship was attacked by V'Ger in the opening scene of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The Klingon commander was played by actor Mark Lenard.

You're right that Khan (not "Kahn") doesn't appear until the second movie, but Khan isn't an Klingon. He's a genetically-engineered Earthman.

Trust me on this.

 

[KlingonMaster]

Ok thanks! I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the Klingons in th first star trek movie though. Kahn didn't come in until the second one when they were fighting over finding the genisis.

Nope. I'm not wrong. A Klingon ship was attacked by V'Ger in the opening scene of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The Klingon commander was played by actor Mark Lenard.

You're right that Khan (not "Kahn") doesn't appear until the second movie, but Khan isn't an Klingon. He's a genetically-engineered Earthman.

Trust me on this.

I could of sworn he was a Klingon... I thought that was how the fighting between Kirk and the Klingons started was because of "Khan"

So if the Klingons did fight against Kirk how come they didn't destroy Kirk when the planet was dieing in the second movie? Or am I getting confused with the genetic humans thing again?

 

[Greg Cox]

There are no Klingons in the second, movie THE WRATH OF KHAN Only Khan and his genetically-engineered followers.

You're thinking of the third movie, THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK. That's the one where the Klingons, led by Kruge, come searching for the secret of the Genesis Planet and end up killing Kirk's son. And that's the one where the Genesis Planet is dying . . .

But Kirk and the Klingons were enemies long before that. He used to fight them all the time on the original 1960's tv series.

 

[Harvey]

Klingon ships do appear in the Kobayashi Maru Scenario that opens the second film, though, and are mentioned a few other times.

 

[Greg Cox]

Klingon ships do appear in the Kobayashi Maru Scenario that opens the second film, though, and are mentioned a few other times.

True, although technically those are not really Klingon ships, but just computer simulations.

I considered mentioning that, but was afraid it would just confuse matters. As the saying goes, sometimes an ounce of inaccuracy saves a ton of explanation.

 

[MacLeod]

Klingon's play a major role in TSFS, TFF and TUC.

They have minor roles in TMP, TVH.

And of course in the guise of Worf in GEN, FC, INS and NEM

 

[Therin of Andor]

Were they invented like in the 1990's in the other series or did they actually start in the original series...?

Probably all you need to know:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon

Klingons were introduced in Star Trek: The Original Series, and first appeared in the episode "Errand of Mercy". At the time, they appeared as fairly ordinary Humans with heavy makeup and mustaches (although their appearance changed even within the original series, with dark makeup and heavy eyebrows being the norm, but the Klingons of "The Trouble with Tribbles" being much lighter-skinned and Human-like in appearance). Beginning with Star Trek: The Motion Picture, improved makeup techniques and bigger budgets led to their present elaborate forehead designs.

 

[KlingonMaster]

Klingon's play a major role in TSFS, TFF and TUC.

They have minor roles in TMP, TVH.

And of course in the guise of Worf in GEN, FC, INS and NEM

You sound like a retarded Klingon with all of those retarded abriviations and retarded words.

 

[Mr Silver]

Klingon's play a major role in TSFS, TFF and TUC.

They have minor roles in TMP, TVH.

And of course in the guise of Worf in GEN, FC, INS and NEM

You sound like a retarded Klingon with all of those retarded abriviations and retarded words.

That's a great way to make friends here...

And those abbreviations are actually common place on this forum.

 

[MarsWeeps]

klingons are waaaay stronger than humans especially humans like Kirk and Dr McCord.

Dr. McCord?

After reading this thread, I have a funny feeling you guys are getting played.

 

[Greg Cox]

You know, that thought crossed my mind, but I figured I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt just in case he was really curious about this stuff . . ..

 

[JRoss]

Oh, Greg, you're too kind for this cruel world.

 

[Greg Cox]

Oh, Greg, you're too kind for this cruel world.

Or much too easily tempted to expound on Star Trek trivia . . ..

 

[JRoss]

Well, I'm Aspergian, so I know how that can be.

 

[SonicRanger]

Ok thanks! I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the Klingons in th first star trek movie though. Kahn didn't come in until the second one when they were fighting over finding the genisis.

You're right that Khan (not "Kahn") doesn't appear until the second movie, but Khan isn't an Klingon.

Right... Khan was a Borg.

 

[T'Bonz]

You sound like a retarded Klingon with all of those retarded abriviations and retarded words.

And everyone wave goodbye to the newbie troublemaker, now exiting the forum on the boot of the Romulan.