Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan?
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OK, enough of the dual speculation. It is false and at any rate, if you ever suspect a dual, the proper procedure is to contact one of us privately. Calling someone a dual or accusing them of being a dual can be something that is a warnable offense.
It stops here. The person to which you're referring has left the board permanently and it's unfair to do this type of speculating behind her back.
Apologies for the temporary thread hijack.
It stops here. The person to which you're referring has left the board permanently and it's unfair to do this type of speculating behind her back.
Apologies for the temporary thread hijack.
Here is an 2006 video where she talks about this..You should also check out the other videos..Very Funny.
I hope this ends the Kate vs Jeri thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tsB9tJUQwA
I hope this ends the Kate vs Jeri thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tsB9tJUQwA
A great clip. It's been posted here before and didn't stop the bickering but perhaps it will this time.
The thing is if someone really wanted to they could take any of Mulgrew's statements out of context and make a big deal out of it.
The reality though is Mulgrew did not insult Ryan personally and if Ryan herself isn't concerned about it then neither should her fans be, imo.
I am new to the board, and new to Voyager. I just want to sum up what I have heard as this issue is also new to me as well. I'm just learning about the characters and the actors. In the G. Wang interview, he states Jeri had to defend herself against what Kate slung her way. He doesn't say Jeri returned was was hurled at her. Robert Picardo stated there was tension, and he is only now finding out the depth of it, then he declined to comment further (Come on Bob put your money where your mouth is) but he did add that he is very fond of Jeri, but does not mention Kate. (It may be from a different interview than the one mentioned above) I also heard that Kate used to whisper horrible things to Jeri, then if a reporter or photographer came to the set, she would go out of her way to throw an arm around Jeri, and cuddle up to her. Lastly, I've often heard things like Jeri is a nice lady, and good to her fans. I've heard Kate can be ascerbic at best. Just what I've heard, don't kill the messenger--Please! 
Both Ryan and Mulgrew are good actresses and did a wonderful job on Voyager. As far as fans are concerned I'm sure both actresses appreciate the support of their fans for all their projects. It could be noted that Ryan does not attend very many conventions to interact with her fans. As someone noted above she prefers to promote current projects, not work she did in the past. Mulgrew on the other hand does attend conventions and is always very open with fans answering their questions. Many times these fan questions are asking about her relationship with Ryan or her thoughts on the character of 7 of 9. It seems Mulgrew's thoughts on the character are sometimes misconstrued as her feelings about the actress who portrayed her. Taking the time to interact with the fans and honestly answer their questions seems to also brand Mulgrew as harping on the subject. D*mned if you do, and d*amned if you don't. I think it should also be noted that of the two, Mulgrew is the one with an official website to keep her fans updated on what she's doing and to thank them for their support. That's Mulgrew's choice and I'm certain Ryan has her reasons for her choice to not have an official site but while I don't mean to shoot the messenger I don't think you can use a bit of heresay to come to the conclusion that Ryan is the only one of the two actresses that is good to her fans. Voyagee, I would find it interesting to see where some of the things you mentioned are documented? And if you read this entire interview with Picardo you will see that he speaks about Mulgrew quite fondly.
http://startrekdom.blogspot.com/2007/06/trekdom-interviews-robert-picardo.html
On the subject of the fans not letting this subject rest, it's interesting that these two interviews conducted a few days apart both asked another actor to comment. Give it a rest, guys.
http://startrekdom.blogspot.com/2007/06/trekdom-interviews-robert-picardo.html
On the subject of the fans not letting this subject rest, it's interesting that these two interviews conducted a few days apart both asked another actor to comment. Give it a rest, guys.
I'm not sure why my remarks have provoked this overreaction, and the fact you have completely missed my point is amusing. Because I am a mod I won't derail the thread by reiterating it. However, I'd suggest there's just a slight difference between bickering over hearsay and gossip and discussing aspects of a movie - regardless of its age. YMMV. Such is life.exodus said:
Stop the madness!
It's no more absurd that posters in Gen. Sci-Fi posting topics about Star Wars, a film that's nearly two and a half decades old.
Besides, you're a MOD. Don't you guys always tell other posters: "If you don't like the subject, then don't post in that thread?"
Far from it, it seems to confirm what everyone is saying. Listen carefully; while she is positively gushing about Jennifer Lien, she can barely get herself to say Jeri Ryan's name, at first referring to her obliquely. And her compliments of Jeri lack any warmth at all, just the way someone grudgingly acknowledges the talents of someone they don't like.
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So hearsay and gossip, not documented facts or even first person accounts. And what would a China Beach crew member know about the set of Voyager? Robert Picardo did that show before he was on Voyager.
So hearsay and gossip, not documented facts or even first person accounts. And what would a China Beach crew member know about the set of Voyager? Robert Picardo did that show before he was on Voyager.
I consider sitting with a China Beach crew memeber in my living room a "first person" account. Yes, Robert Picardo did do China Beach way before Voyager, and people do maintain contacts, and friends from job to job. Like I said before, I delivered the news, didn't write it. I stated what I heard.
A first person account means the person relating the incident was involved. If the person was not on the Voyager set it isn't a first person account of what happened on set.
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I'm not sure why my remarks have provoked this overreaction, and the fact you have completely missed my point is amusing. Because I am a mod I won't derail the thread by reiterating it. However, I'd suggest there's just a slight difference between bickering over hearsay and gossip and discussing aspects of a movie - regardless of its age. YMMV. Such is life.exodus said:
Stop the madness!
It's no more absurd that posters in Gen. Sci-Fi posting topics about Star Wars, a film that's nearly two and a half decades old.
Besides, you're a MOD. Don't you guys always tell other posters: "If you don't like the subject, then don't post in that thread?"
Whatever, considering your point was pointless.
Peace out.
AuntKate , I will be more than happy to pass along your "Hello". :thumbsup:
I am a fan of the series and the characters more than I am of the actors. I don't really care what the actors say and do, to be honest. They are just actors, after all, and are subject to the same problems all the rest of us face because they are flawed human beings. They bear a striking resemblance to the Starfleet characters they brought to life (although they are getting older, of course). So I prefer to focus on what appeared on the rather screen than obsess over what might or might not have happened behind the scenes. That's all water under the bridge at this point.
Let's face it. Mulgrew was sad TPTB dragged in a overly-sexy-woman into the show to raise the rating. At first, I also couldn't believe that they put a "playboy-bunny" into the show. It seemed hollow and cheap to me. Star Trek is more than just the looks. But TPTB didn't give that a chance.
However, after a couple of episodes, even my girlfriend came to love that "cheap Borg-bitch" and loved episodes with her to death.
So, other than with getting T'Pol naked in decon or exploring humanity with Trip, they made Seven a great character and didn't exploit her looks too often.
However, after a couple of episodes, even my girlfriend came to love that "cheap Borg-bitch" and loved episodes with her to death.
So, other than with getting T'Pol naked in decon or exploring humanity with Trip, they made Seven a great character and didn't exploit her looks too often.
This is one of the coolest threads i have read, i should really get into Voyager. I thought both women were attractive, Jeri because-well you know, But Kate because i always have been attracted to women in charge. I had no idea there was a rivalry of sorts between them. Especially since the episodes i have seen have had the 2 of them doing really great scenes together. If all of this is true then it shows that even if they hated each other or not they could pull out a great finished product which in the end is the point-at least to me. I give a kudos to both of them at least for doing their jobs and being professional when it counts, and thats when the director or underling yells "action".
hmmm...just came upon this thread and thought i'd add my one cent...hehe...
as far as i'm aware....kate has never put down jeri.....she has jepped the producers for introducing the 'tits and ass appealing to the lowest denominator' (what ever was said)...which was true!....they introduced seven based on tits and ass....how is that not obvious...lol....look how they dressed her!....and yes having a great body (if that's your interpretation of a great body) can be looked at as a great fit body and admired.....however by doing it the way they did....well that's what catwalks are for...actually not even that cause they're showing off cloths...but you get my drift! i don't blame kate for feeling woman were insulted by it or men for that matter.....
i know kate can be a bitch...but at least she's open and honest when asked things......
i'm no fan of jeri....mainly cause the times i have seen her in interviews...well i wasn't impressed at all...
but the janeway/seven relationship on voyager was unmistakenly brilliant....and kate has often expressed her respect towards jeri's acting ability.
as far as i'm aware....kate has never put down jeri.....she has jepped the producers for introducing the 'tits and ass appealing to the lowest denominator' (what ever was said)...which was true!....they introduced seven based on tits and ass....how is that not obvious...lol....look how they dressed her!....and yes having a great body (if that's your interpretation of a great body) can be looked at as a great fit body and admired.....however by doing it the way they did....well that's what catwalks are for...actually not even that cause they're showing off cloths...but you get my drift! i don't blame kate for feeling woman were insulted by it or men for that matter.....
i know kate can be a bitch...but at least she's open and honest when asked things......
i'm no fan of jeri....mainly cause the times i have seen her in interviews...well i wasn't impressed at all...
but the janeway/seven relationship on voyager was unmistakenly brilliant....and kate has often expressed her respect towards jeri's acting ability.
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