Justice League official "Zack Snyder" cut on HBO Max

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  1. YLu

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    And totally against what Zack or Deborah want from their movie.
     
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    But as James Gunn has come out and said in the past few days, this is a small group. Not all Snyder fans are like that.
     
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    Is the Snyder cut illegible for the next awards cycle?

    Its a webisode or it's movie released in 2018.
     
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    Saw it this past weekend, and I'd call myself a casual viewer, so I won't go into all sorts of details, but I think it only reaffirmed what I've long felt: that I don't really like Snyder's style.

    Everything just seems so dull and muted, from the colours to the cgi (and the cgi reminded me more of early cgi), and the fight scenes aren't particularly exciting either. Haven't seen Man of Steel, but it's something I also felt from Batman Vs Superman. His love of slow-motion also doesn't help, in 4 hour movie that already feels stretched.
     
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    Obviously not, but that will not stop some with unhealthy hatred of Snyder, his films and fans from trying to sell an easily debunked generalization / lie.
     
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    Honest Trailer for the Snyder Cut

     
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    Your zeal for defending everything about him makes it pretty likely that you are one of the people in question.
     
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    I don’t get this hatred for Snyder as well. He seems like a nice enough guy.
     
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    He's a Randian and the haters are liberals.
     
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    As i've said before, its clinically unhealthy, and historically dangerous (in some cases) for anyone to hate Snyder, his work and his fans at the level seen on this board, along with some obsessively investing themselves in an interpretation of a fictional character.
     
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    Are we talking about Snyder Haters or the toxic Snyder fans.
     
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    Those who hate Snyder, his films and fans of his work.
     
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    If someone really "hates" a work of fiction made only for entertainment, well, this someone has really deep issues and must seek professional help. The only situation where one is truly entitled to hate a movie is if you are a black person, it's the 1915 and you have just watched Birth Of A Nation.
     
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    He seems like he'd be an amazing guy to hang around with and just talk about things. He's passionate about his work and he seems like a nice guy, really cool.

    His movies, on the other hand, are questionable to some (there has to be SOMETHING there otherwise it wouldn't be a thing). Separating the art from the artist is easy. Or at least should be. It seems that most people in this thread at least aren't attacking his character or him as a person (I haven't read every post).

    Nah, that's just semantics, when people say they hate something, it can be the same way we say "I hate the cold", "I hate spiders" or "I hate Tom Green". Everybody hates things and they don't need help for that. Have you genuinely never watched a movie before and said "I hated that, there's no way I'd watch it again."? Some movies that are too dark and disturbing fall under that category for me where I had no idea going into them they'd turn out the way they did. My love of Patrick Stewart got me to blind watch "Green Room". Hated it, was not prepared for that, though I don't blame anyone in the film for making it, it's just a personal preference but I would EASILY use the term "hate" for that movie. Easily.

    Besides, isn't art (of which movies easily fall under) supposed to bring about strong emotions, and not all of them always positive but sometimes even unsettling?
     
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    When I read about actors getting death threats, I don't think about "semantics". When someone says "George Lucas raped my childhood" best case scenario he is making fun of real victims of sexual violence, in the worst he really believes that one can retroactively traumatize his childhood. In both cases, he is far from to be a well adjusted person. And while I can concede about works of art bringing emotions, we are not taking about Guernica or Salò or the 120 Days of Sodom. We are talking about movie with space wizards of people who think that it's a perfectly reasonable idea wearing a colorful costume to fight crime and save kittens on trees. These aren't author movies Which Want To Convey A Poignant Message, these are just well done popcorn flicks.
     
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  19. M'rk son of Mogh

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    There are messages behind the costumes, though. Maybe not totally deep ones, but they're there and they bring out emotions.

    My comment wasn't on the death threats or over the top comments though. I'm sure everyone in this forum agrees with how awful those acts are. I'm simply on your writing that if someone "really hates a work of fiction", that they need help.
     
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    Yes, they bring out emotions, the cheap ones, like "OMG, this adorable little puppy is in mortal danger, will it be saved?!?!" (yes it will). And while I can say "I hate this salad" too, we are not living in a world where salad makers receive death threats. We are living in the one where actors fears for their life only because they worked for some multi-billionaire franchise. So this is the reason why we should use the right words, because if we talk only by hyperboles words lose their meaning and it becomes impossible to distinguish a serious situation from one that is not, considering that one can't even use the word "literally" as in "literally hating", because for a lot of people "literally" means "figuratively".
     
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