Jon Favreau to produce & write live action show

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  1. Tosk

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    I don't think anyone is questioning that, only if freezing people is remotely standard procedure.

    I agree that most everyone acts as though it's risky only due to Cloud City's facilities, but the one line that is hard to make fit is Lando's, "Lord Vader, we only use this facility for carbon freezing." Well no shit, Space Sherlock. That's what we're here for.

    Unless he means that they use it to freeze carbon, as opposed to using it to freeze other things in carbonite. ;)
     
  2. Crewman6

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    3PO isn't making a joke. His reaction is darkly funny to US given his seemingly glib reaction to whether Han survived or not.

    Yes. I didn't mean 3PO himself was deliberately trying to be funny.
     
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  3. Crewman6

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    You don't get to use what happens in Clone Wars to justify what happens in ESB. We're talking ONLY about what happens in ESB.

    And, as explicitly stated in the movie, Vader was going to test the freezing process first to ensure the "Emperor's prize" wasn't "damaged."

    Or Lando is shocked that Vader is even suggesting such a thing because the very notion is absurd/dangerous. Lando's warning to Vader is extremely direct and dire, even in light of the fact that Lando doesn't care about who "Skywalker" is and has already shown total deference to Vader. But because Vader's suggestion is just that far off the wall, Lando, even with his questionable ethics, can't help but address it.

    It could just be a generic scanner that monitors everything that is going on inside the block and is able to give him data on whatever the scanners pick up, including life signs. Or, as another poster suggests in the thread, they could have added it on, knowing what they were using it for.

    Nope, she says "hibernation" sickness. There could be countless other ways people are put into stasis in a science fiction universe that could result in a similar condition.

    There is literally zero evidence that it's ever been done before and ample evidence to suggest that the very notion of it was considered crazy.
     
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    You'd have to imagine if such an obviously useful method exists that it'd have to be standard practice. I mean why NOT use it when it solves so many problems of high value prisoner transport/internment?
    Think about it: even if the ship transporting them is destroyed, there's a good chance the slab would survive in the debris. Political prisoners, enemy spies, assassins, informants; basically anyone either too dangerous or troublesome to transport, or so valuable you can't risk them offing themselves or being knocked off for knowing too much.
    Hell, for all we know this is how Jedi and Sith imprisoned each other during their many wars. I mean there was a chamber in the temple that could freeze at least seven people at a time, no?

    Obviously it's not for *every* prisoner and probably too much hassle for gen-pop mass transportation to be practical, but for high value targets over long distance? Very useful and perfect for the bounty hunter's guild, since a commodity you don't have to feed, guard or recapture if they escape is a lot easier and more profitable than the alternative.
     
  5. The Wormhole

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    "Overuse of carbon freezing"? This will mark the third time we've seen carbon freezing in on screen material. For a franchise that has been around for forty-two years something that has been seen three times (the last of which was eight years ago) is hardly "overused."
     
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    And I'm saying even if it isn't a joke his glib reaction is indicative of it not being as dangerous or unheard of as postulated in this thread.
     
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    It's like how the cartoon Saw Gerrera doesn't look particularly black. He's got a cornrow thing happening but that's not much to go on. ( And those eyes... ) In fact, the only real indication that he's black is that he has a sister who is depicted as more obviously black.
     
  8. Tuskin38

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    How would she know it causes Hibernation sickness if it has never been done before? it could have been a completely different condition.
     
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    Please don't sprain your shoulder with your absurd reaches.

    Hibernation sickness is a condition that results from being in hibernation. Hibernation is not a condition that is unique to being frozen in carbonite.
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    Only reaching I see here is from you, which is why I won't continue this conversation.
     
  11. Crewman6

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    Because you lost. You're literally inventing stuff out of the blue instead of actually focusing on what's in the film to bolster your argument.
     
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  13. The Wormhole

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    Huh, just noticed in the picture in that article there's in fact a whole row of people frozen in carbonite. Now I got a funny image of some sort of shop which keeps carbon frozen bad guys in stock, and the Bounty Hunters go there, pay for one to deliver to a crime lord or a Hutt or someone for payment or trade or something.
     
  14. Dry Bones 37

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    This is a discussion not a competition.
     
  15. Crewman6

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    But....but...I won! Can't you let me at least have that?
     
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    Not if it shuts down communication. I'm funny like that.

    ETA: Out of personal curiosity and my own oddness, I looked up how often carbonite freezing was used in legends, i.e. pre-Disney. From the Star Wars wiki:
    Obviously, not official, but I note the fact that the wiki describes Vader as testing "Bespin's freezing process" not carbonite freezing specifically.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    In Legends, carbon freezing humanoids was something that had been done for several thousand years at least as it shows up in the SWTOR MMO.
     
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    It even showed up as a weapon in another video game. Where it could temporarily freeze your opponent. Hardly mysterious technology.
     
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    I loved that gun.
     
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