Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by flavaflav, Mar 8, 2018.
99% sure Pablo confirmed the design intent was for her to have Asian features, though it's more obvious in some of the less stylised depictions like the black series action figure and I think one of the mobile games.
Your missing out. Some of the best Star Wars stories and characters are in those series. Don't let them being animated make you think they are just kid shows.
Mandalorian trailer looks awesome. Every shot in that could have been from a movie.
Trailer looks solid, seems like it could be a fun show.
I'm lukewarm on this. I remember watching the full scene as leaked footage. and Apollo Creed gives him a MacGuffin so he could go to Herzog with it so he can get another MacGuffin. The sets looked cheap. IG-88 shot is mere fan service. The space shot looks like a reject from Spaceballs. Also WTF is up with the carbon freezing. Sorry.. watch Empire again. vader thought of it... spur of the moment, and Fett doubted it would work. Now it's like.. what bounty hunters use?? Stop Disney please. Go home
They resolved the carbon freezing thing a while ago. Both in old comics (Sith Lords sometimes did that as a means of semi-permanent torture thousands of years ago), and in the Clone Wars, were the Republic used a better grade facility than what Lando had on Cloud City to freeze an infiltration unit of Jedi and Clones to sneak past biological sensors at a high security Separatist prison to break out some important prisoners. Vader's comment is that the Cloud City facility is crude and Fett's worried that if it is crude he might not survive. C-3PO, once he gets a look at what they are doing, seems fine with the idea of freezing Han in carbonite, like it was something that could be done, not some random act of cruelty. If it was something horrific, 3PO would be aghast, but isn't when he seen it.
I don't think that's IG-88 but another droid of that model.
IG-11 voiced by Taika Waititi.
Been a part of SW lore for a while. Neither new nor impressive. It was treated as old hat in EU material.
Sabine is indeed supposed to be Asian, though, IMO, the rest of her family look more "obviously" Asian than she does.
Yeah, but all this overuse of carbon freezing is just dumb and one of countless instances of the EU overusing stuff from the OT that really should have been left alone.
In ESB, the implication is that carbon freezing a person in that way is something that just isn't done and probably has never been done before. Lando's reaction to the very idea suggests that you don't just friggin' carbon freeze a person and it has nothing to do with his "sub par" facilities.
3PO's reaction is completely glib, it's not because carbon freezing is safe and normal. He's reaction to whether or not Han even survived is shockingly dismissive. It's just dark humor and it's not meant to imply that people get frozen all the time.
Oh, OK I never heard about Pablo saying that or saw the episodes with her family.
Vader seems to think it will work, and we know why now, because he did it himself in the Clone Wars CG series. The Emperor and Vader wanted Luke alive, why would they trust technology that has never done this before as their first choice?
Han was just the test subject to see if Lando’s facility was good enough. Lando is just nervous because his facility has never done it before.
Also the control panel had life signs monitoring tech, why would that tech even be there if it had never been done before?
Carbonite sickness is also mentioned by Leia in ROTJ, so it’s a known condition in the galaxy.
There’s more evidence to it being something that’s been done before than there is against it.
On this point, I will respectfully disagree. For starters, 3PO doesn't appear capable of dark humor. He certainly doesn't appreciate Han's darker humor in the asteroid field and is constantly freaking out through that entire flight. He also reacts quite fearfully to the mynok. So, I have a very difficult time reading it as dark humor when he hs been demonstrated to freak out at the mere hint of the specter of death.
I don't think they meant that Threepio himself was engaging in dark humor, rather that the humor came from the fact that Threepio is so blasé about Han's survival, and more fascinated by what's going on.
Yep, totally, to all of this.
As to this, though, I assume you are referring to the side panel on Han's slab? If so, then this point doesn't really carry any weight. As the whole object of the exercise was to make sure Han survived, such a scanner was essential. In such a tech-filled world, they could rig up whatever they needed, if it didn't already exist.
It still doesn't really fit with how 3PO had been the rest of the film is all. If he thought it was truly dire his reaction would have presented such.
Threepio displays some level of nonchalance for Han's life in that scene in favor of mild fascination at the method they went with. "He should be quite well protected...if he survived the freezing process, that is."
His attitude isn't changed by whether carbon freezing is commonplace for biologicals or not.
Threepio is just like that sometimes. Like soon afterwards when they are desperately running from the Empire, being shot at by TIE fighters...and Threepio is more interested in complaining about Chewie being noisy, chastising Artoo for listening to a strange computer, and having his leg reattached. When Artoo moves away to try and save them all, Threepio actually tells him to come back and finish him first. Wotta nob.
I don't have a quote to hand, but I'm pretty sure either Lucas or Kasdan has said that the intent was for carbon freezing to be a known practice, only the crude nature of Cloud City's facility (presumably because it's only meant for inanimate or at most, non-living organic cargo) raised questions of suitability. I mean just watch the scene; nobody, not even Han says "what the hell is carbon freezing?" Or "but this hasn't be done before!" And why would the slab controls feature a life monitor if this is not already a done thing? And in Jedi when he's unfrozen, only the layer immediately around his body melts leaving most of the slab still intact, as though again, it's designed to hold a living subject.
Add to that the basic logic that if it were such a colossal unknown as to whether a person could survive it, why risk killing Luke at all? For all they know Han's survival could have been a fluke! That it's a known thing is the only answer that makes sense.
And let's be honest, if this tech is common enough that it can be found on some small backwater mining colony then it's got to be fairly ubiquitous. That means that somewhere, someone would already have tried it, and if it worked, someone else would have made it standard practice for cheaply transporting high value and or very dangerous prisoners. Maybe it was used for long term stasis back before hyperdrive engines, or when the major hyperlanes hadn't been charted and galactic travel was a slow, tentative journey that took many years to get any significant distance.
There was an adaptation, possibly the TESB novelization, that mention that carbon freezing was used to preserve live stock.
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