What he/she/they said.
Jayru (JSnaith's) 3D Trek
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What he/she/they said.
He’s good.
Wanted to do a proper reply to you - you have an interesting idea. Not really delved too deeply into pre-TOS designs. For me, the USS Constellation is an early Constitution Class rather than an upgraded ship. But I respect the right of others to state otherwise. In real-world terms, it probably makes sense to upgrade ships to new specs - which means the Constitution Class is an upgrade of a previous class, and the refit I'm going to build would class as an Enterprise Class - but that's not how Trek lists things.
The Constitution Class is what it is, and the registrations are what they are. I don't hold with the idea that they all have reg numbers that start 17XX, I have my own thoughts on how the Federation registers warp-capable ships. The letter prefix is what matters, not the number. NCC and NX seem to be exclusive to Starfleet. NAR seems to refer to civilian ships, with NGC being reserved for timeships. There are others as well. The numbers are unique, hence there is no NAR-1701 or NGC-1701. But that's MOO
I'm going to think about your idea and see if it would work on another project - hope that sits well with you.
Would you consider also doing Matt Jefferies's shuttle design?
Maybe the Saladin carries smaller shuttles similar to TNG's Type 15 shuttlepod?
IMHO, since are building your own interpretations of the ships then there is no reason to be beholden to popular or in-universe registration numbers or classifications
It's something to think about. Would go well with the Phase II model I have.
Possibly, it's something to think about in the future.
lol, I try to keep things to "what's seen on screen" when it comes to names and numbers. I have a name in mind for this ship that will sit nice with everyone ;-)IMHO, since are building your own interpretations of the ships then there is no reason to be beholden to popular or in-universe registration numbers or classifications
Updates:
Comments welcome, more later
You're off to a good start.
Fair warning, though, this is my second all-time favorite ship design (behind the TOS Battlestar Galactica). I might be more vocal in my critiquing than usual. I'll hold off for now until I see more - I already twitched about a couple of things, but it's all good...
Fair warning, though, this is my second all-time favorite ship design (behind the TOS Battlestar Galactica). I might be more vocal in my critiquing than usual. I'll hold off for now until I see more - I already twitched about a couple of things, but it's all good...
Let's call it, an interpretation and see how I go. It's my first time building one of these!You're off to a good start.
Fair warning, though, this is my second all-time favorite ship design (behind the TOS Battlestar Galactica). I might be more vocal in my critiquing than usual. I'll hold off for now until I see more - I already twitched about a couple of things, but it's all good...
Slow going getting things done, so more tomorrow.
Blocking out complete - can start detailing and refining things now:
Now for a small admission;
The Bridge, Sensor Dome, Deflector Dish, Torpedo Bay details, Impulse Deflection Crystal and Nacelles are from other projects. In fact, due to the number of TMP ships I have worked on, I save parts like this to a repository and grab as needed. The Nacelles I forgot I had. When I worked on the McCaffrey and Sutton Classes I built LN-65 style nacelles and adapted them for those projects. They still need some work to bring them up to Constitution standards, but it's easier to start from something than nothing.
Anyways, more soon - comments always welcome.
Now for a small admission;
The Bridge, Sensor Dome, Deflector Dish, Torpedo Bay details, Impulse Deflection Crystal and Nacelles are from other projects. In fact, due to the number of TMP ships I have worked on, I save parts like this to a repository and grab as needed. The Nacelles I forgot I had. When I worked on the McCaffrey and Sutton Classes I built LN-65 style nacelles and adapted them for those projects. They still need some work to bring them up to Constitution standards, but it's easier to start from something than nothing.
Anyways, more soon - comments always welcome.
A and B decks are locked for the moment -
Is this going to be an exact copy of the refit Enterprise?
No
I'm minded by a conversation I've had with Aridas Sofia and Todd Guenther that no two starships from a class are identical. Differences will exist between ships, a because of when they were built, and b, because things change over time.
On screen, we only ever saw four refit Constitution Class starships;
USS Enterprise NCC1701 (TMP to TSFS)
Unnamed ship with the registry NCC1717 (TVH)
USS Enterprise NCC1701A (TVH-TUC, "The Bounty," Picard)
Unnamed ship, destroyed ("Best of Both Worlds Part 2," TNG)
Of those four, we only really saw one in great detail and that was the original Enterprise.
I am not building the Enterprise.
So, yes, there are going to be differences - that and I am limited by my skill set with 3D. Yes, I have come a long way since I started back in 2002, but I still have gaps in my knowledge.
Anyways, back to the main show... comments welcome, more later.
Is this going to be an exact copy of the refit Enterprise?
No
I'm minded by a conversation I've had with Aridas Sofia and Todd Guenther that no two starships from a class are identical. Differences will exist between ships, a because of when they were built, and b, because things change over time.
On screen, we only ever saw four refit Constitution Class starships;
USS Enterprise NCC1701 (TMP to TSFS)
Unnamed ship with the registry NCC1717 (TVH)
USS Enterprise NCC1701A (TVH-TUC, "The Bounty," Picard)
Unnamed ship, destroyed ("Best of Both Worlds Part 2," TNG)
Of those four, we only really saw one in great detail and that was the original Enterprise.
I am not building the Enterprise.
So, yes, there are going to be differences - that and I am limited by my skill set with 3D. Yes, I have come a long way since I started back in 2002, but I still have gaps in my knowledge.
Anyways, back to the main show... comments welcome, more later.
I would recommend elongating the nacelles just a bit. Maybe it's the way the perspective is distorting them (or maybe you have perspective rendering turned off on some of these pics?) but they seem a bit on the diminutive side compared to the rest of the ship's scale. I get the notion that ships will be built different to a degree, but the LN-64 nacelles always seemed "standard" across all the ships of the 23rd-24th centuries. Just my 2¢. Carry on.
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