Jayru (JSnaith's) 3D Trek

[JSnaith]

"Small" is a relative thing. For instance, when rendered to scale against a Constitution Class, is this ship tiny?



Even at 186m in length, this is still a massive ship. It's just relative to how you look at it.

More soon.

 

[Mage]

Basic answer to the question about Starfleet... It IS military.

It's just that what constitutes being military in their time is not what we would consider purely military now. Just as there are aspects of modern military services today that would hardly fit in well about 200-250 years ago.

Well, here we go again.... This forum definitely needed ANOTHER debate on this.

I agree with you and disagree. I say Starfleet is NOT military, because it has many duties that fall outside of what a military does. I do agree with you that the concept of military changes over centuries.
What I've said in the past and will say here again....
Starfleet is NOT a military. It is a completely unique organisation that has many duties, including what a current day military would do. It has a ranking system based on military/naval ranks. Based on, not exactly like.
For example, it took until half way of DS9 for the writers to realize that someone with the rank of captain doesn't automatically receive a command but can also have other duties. Or for someone of the rank of commander to be the CO of a ship and be referred to as a captain. Hell, we should have seen system patrol ships with many 20 people onboard and a Lt. Commander as the CO. That would be more naval. We should have been seeing far more starships with admirals on it.

@JSnaith I'm so sorry for this long and unrelated post in your topic. I'll keep my peace now and only comment on your designs and progress.

 

[Bernard Guignard]

I have a broad question, one that really should be on another thread, given that Starfleet is a paramilitary organisation (lose one at that, no saluting etc), whose primary function is exploration, why do we always define ships in terms of military roles? I see this ship as a small capable science vessel.

Hi Jayru speaking for my self. The trek universe that I imagine is more about FJ's ship designations, followed by my few years of playing Starfleet Battles and how they designate ships. I also enjoyed all the FASA Roleplaying material never played the game but enjoyed the technical manuals. and I collected all sorts of tech material. Check out my deviant art page some time. The FJ blueprints started my love of Trek Tech.

 

[The Librarian]

This feels like it's a predecessor to the Nova. It's got a similar size and profile.

 

[JSnaith]

Well, here we go again.... This forum definitely needed ANOTHER debate on this.

I agree with you and disagree. I say Starfleet is NOT military, because it has many duties that fall outside of what a military does. I do agree with you that the concept of military changes over centuries.
What I've said in the past and will say here again....
Starfleet is NOT a military. It is a completely unique organisation that has many duties, including what a current day military would do. It has a ranking system based on military/naval ranks. Based on, not exactly like.
For example, it took until half way of DS9 for the writers to realize that someone with the rank of captain doesn't automatically receive a command but can also have other duties. Or for someone of the rank of commander to be the CO of a ship and be referred to as a captain. Hell, we should have seen system patrol ships with many 20 people onboard and a Lt. Commander as the CO. That would be more naval. We should have been seeing far more starships with admirals on it.

@JSnaith I'm so sorry for this long and unrelated post in your topic. I'll keep my peace now and only comment on your designs and progress.

Those are interesting points, and yes - it is something I hadn't considered. Although if mem serves wasn't CO of the starbase in 11001001 a Commander? Yes, it makes better sense that smaller ships and stations might not need a captain to run them. And the idea that Starfleet is a loose collective, rather than a die-hard military org makes proper sense - as you say, they have other duties.

And no worries, I asked the question.

Hi Jayru speaking for my self. The trek universe that I imagine is more about FJ's ship designations, followed by my few years of playing Starfleet Battles and how they designate ships. I also enjoyed all the FASA Roleplaying material never played the game but enjoyed the technical manuals. and I collected all sorts of tech material. Check out my deviant art page some time. The FJ blueprints started my love of Trek Tech.

Again, that is someone outside of the screen who is putting Starfleet into today's military terms. Now, whilst that is understandable, people would try to make sense of it that way. We never hear the terms corvetee, frigate, etc in terms of the show. Heavy Cruiser and Cruiser Light Cruiser are the only definitions we hear. That doesn't mean other terms don't exist. Does using current ship terms make sense in Trek? That's a hard question to answer. To an extent, maybe, but the roles these ships have are far different from the roles a current navy would use. Plus, to quote Kir,k "Starfleet is a combined service" (Tomorrow is Yesterday), so strictly speaking, it isn't a just Navy Service, but something else. Humm, food for thought.

I shall take a gander at your dA page, have one myself, but it's just for my writing and other artwork (search for JSnaith).

This feels like it's a predecessor to the Nova. It's got a similar size and profile.

I noticed that myself, but my paper design predates Voyager by a few decades, lol.


Updates, thoughts and some random drivel:

I am shutting down my 3D projects until the new year. I need a break, and with that surgical procedure coming up (if you're curious, do a search for "TriClip Procedure"), I don't want too many projects hanging over my head whilst I'm away from my PC.

I need to do a reinstall on my main rig, it's become a little temperamental and is crashing a lot. It's not the hardware, it's a software thing. So... That will be a few days.

Christmas is coming up, and however you spend the holiday (I am not a religious person myself) we have been making a lot of memories. (Yesterday was a meal at a Japanese restaurant because I've never been to one, and why not?). I'd like to make sure I'm not leaving too many projects hanging over my head. I know there are a few unfinished, and I will get back to them. Planning for the future, because either way, the future is going to happen.

And lastly, I need to get to work on a writing project. A character is bugging the hell out of me, so I will get on with their story and finish it (it's not just 3D projects I have unfinished, lol).

So, anyways... If I don't post beforehand, however you spend the Holiday, have a good one, and a fantastic New Year's Eve. Here's to 2026.

More soon!