Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

[Tim Walker]

Let’s leave the modern politics out of it.

There’s plenty of that elsewhere.

Yes. I have seen forums-not intended for politics-turn nasty, hateful when people brought in contemporary political issues. I have seen moderators having to intervene....

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

TOS wasn't utopian.

This. Far too many ST fans--including some of the bigger YouTube ST channel hosts--still spew that utopia crap, when a casual look at TOS shows a universe of racial hatred (Stiles and Boma toward Spock and Vulcans in the broader sense, some Vulcans toward humans, Klingons despised humans, etc.), mass murder (Kodos, et al.), planetary disasters caused by external threats (the Doomsday Machine, Nomad, etc.), and humans--as the reflection of the viewers--still suffering from a host of antisocial traits they were not struggling to move beyond. TOS never painted a rosy picture of the future in the way some fans argue.

The utopian nonsense largely grew in the 1970s, thanks to Roddenberry, et al., selling that revisionist notion, yet the claim never held up when anyone simply watched the episodes.

 

[Weyoun 251]

This. Far too many ST fans--including some of the bigger YouTube ST channel hosts--still spew that utopia crap, when a casual look at TOS shows a universe of racial hatred (Stiles and Boma toward Spock and Vulcans in the broader sense, some Vulcans toward humans, Klingons despised humans, etc.), mass murder (Kodos, et al.), planetary disasters caused by external threats (the Doomsday Machine, Nomad, etc.), and humans--as the reflection of the viewers--still suffering from a host of antisocial traits they were not struggling to move beyond. TOS never painted a rosy picture of the future in the way some fans argue.

The utopian nonsense largely grew in the 1970s, thanks to Roddenberry, et al., selling that revisionist notion, yet the claim never held up when anyone simply watched the episodes.

I think a better word - that encapsulates your point well - would be aspirational

“We will not kill today” (defo not quite the quote but hopefully everyone gets the one I mean) owns humanities flaws but puts an exclamation mark on its desire to do better