Is it just me, or is Star Trek going the wrong way?

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by LunaticBurnout, Oct 9, 2020.

  1. Steve Roby

    Steve Roby Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    The Rolling Stones loved blues, R&B, soul, and reggae. Why wouldn't they like a little funk and disco too?
     
  2. cooleddie74

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    Almost no major band or solo artist made a good disco album. Elton John's was atrocious.
     
  3. Steve Roby

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    I was a big ELO fan for a while there, and it was their album Discovery, ironically, that killed that for me. Well, that and the fact that I was starting to get into new wave and punk. But yeah, most of the good disco did not come from rock musicians. And there was good disco. I wouldn't want to live in a world without George McCrae's "Rock Your Baby" or Donna Summer's "I Feel Love".

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  4. CorporalCaptain

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    :wtf: You know that "Twist and Shout" was a cover, right?
     
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  5. cooleddie74

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    "Please Mr. Postman." Most of the tracks on their first three or four EMI studio albums. The Beatles sold themselves, but they were just good at making the most of selling themselves. ;)
     
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  6. dupersuper

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    Yeah, those are rollicking good times...
     
  7. fireproof78

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    I'm not terrified of a person who enjoys them just because it isn't for me.
     
  8. dupersuper

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    I'm at least warry of some one who makes them with beloved childhood characters, not for humour/irony/parody, but because they're so hopelessly cynical they can't seem to even comprehend actual good kind characters.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    So we should be wary of people who struggle? I know a lot of good, kind, people and every single one struggles. They just are never allowed to show it.
     
  10. Lynx

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    Perhaps.
    But you must admit that it becomes more exciting reading something which is written the way I wrote it. :lol:

    I really, really like The Stones but "Miss You" is a bit weak. Too adapted for my taste.
    Compare it to gems like "Satisfaction", "It's All Over Now", "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Paint It Black" and other masterpieces. Even softer songs like "Ruby Tuesday", "Wild Horses" and "Angie" are better than "Miss You". However, I can at least listen to "Miss You", I don't skip it when it shows up.

    I listened to new music many years after I'd finished school, in fact I worked in the music business for a while. It's the last 5 years which had turned me off a little. Just too much bad music right now.

    But there are still some good stuff left. The new Iron Maiden Album will be out in September! :techman:
     
  11. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    Um....no.
     
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  12. cooleddie74

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    I've seen more exciting words scrawled on bathroom walls.
     
  13. Steve Roby

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    Iron Maiden's not exactly new, but then I'll still buy whatever Kate Bush, Killing Joke, Wire, Buzzcocks, or John Foxx might decide to put out.

    As for new music, my attitude has long been that there's always a lot of good music. What changes is how hard you have to look for it. Looking at the last ten or twenty years or so (and at my age twenty years feels fairly recent), it wasn't radio that introduced me to Burial, Marissa Nadler, Leyland Kirby, Julianna Barwick, These New Puritans, etc.

    That doesn't analogize well for Star Trek. Still, there've been times when I was dissatisfied with what was on TV but excited by what was happening in the novels. The novels are in a transitional phase right now, with a trilogy coming that'll wind up the litverse timeline that Star Trek: Picard has contradicted, so it remains to be seen whether they'll be in a position to deliver more old school Star Trek for people not as interested in current TV. But it could happen.
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    The only thing I've seen on bathroom walls are swastikas, phone numbers promising a good time which I'm pretty sure are false advertising, and the name "Jake."
     
  15. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    Working the counter at Tower Records doesn't count.

    I'm pretty sure the bad/good ratio in music is no different than it was 5, 50 or 100 years ago. Not every band in the 60's was at the Beatles level. Nostalgia lets us filter out the bad stuff.
     
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  16. cooleddie74

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    Even a few Beatles songs were crap.
     
  17. Nerys Myk

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    There are a couple I've been know to skip. (I'm looking at you Mister Moonlight)
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    And I'll gladly sit through "Honey Pie" AND "Wild Honey Pie." And even I know they aren't all A-list winners.
     
  19. Nerys Myk

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    Paul and his granny music
     
  20. fireproof78

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    *Turns on the Monkees.*
     
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