Is it just me, or is Star Trek going the wrong way?

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by LunaticBurnout, Oct 9, 2020.

  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux Boomer American Premium Member

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    I don't like her either.

    That doesn't make what she's done "bad music."
     
  2. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Well of course not liking her doesn't make her music bad. That would be the effect preceding the cause.
     
  3. Noname Given

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    You had a human first officer take umbridge that Data (an Android / artificial life form) was given command of a ship over him. To be fair to the character in question, he did try to resign his post before he started spewing a lot of bigoted dialog. Data refused his request for transfer. After that he got pretty indignant at times.

    The episode was TNG "Redemption (Part II)", TNG's 5th season premiere episode.
     
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  4. fireproof78

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    Thank you.
     
  5. Turtletrekker

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    One of my favorite episodes in the entirety of the franchise.
     
  6. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    Agreed. It's pointless to argue with self-important edgelords anyway.
     
  7. Steve Roby

    Steve Roby Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    The ignore function is really helpful. Some people have an unfortunate compulsion to come in and trash something that other people like. I don't have to read them.

    TrekBBS is a site for fans. Some people need to figure out if they still consider themselves fans, and, if not, they may be able to find something better to do with their time.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Indeed. Honestly, this was the place where I really appreciated what people like about interconnected universes with Burnham being able to use her Vulcan history, as well as the united Romulan/Vulcan culture as presented. Her mom's appearance was a little bit much but I love the deep character struggle of Michael so it works.
     
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  9. captain crow

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    Some people need to stop gatekeeping and dictating who does or doesn't count as a fan. As one can be a fan of something yet still be disappointed or outright dislike some part of whatever it is they are a fan of.

    Star Trek
    is a 55 year old franchise spanning several shows and movies. Not everyone is going to like every single millisecond of it.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Agreed. I don't care for a lot of Trek but I like what I like. Still a fan.

    Though, I am weird in that I will not wait around for something to get my interest. Star Trek doesn't earn a pass from me because Star Trek. TNG never got past first season and didn't really go back. I think, even as a fan, moving on from stuff that I dislike is smarter in the long run.

    Mileage, etc.
     
  11. Steve Roby

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    "Some people need to figure out if they still consider themselves fans." That's gatekeeping? Really?

    Yep. I don't care much for Enterprise. According to the TrekBBS search function, I've posted in the Enterprise section of the forum exactly twice.
     
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  12. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    All right, everybody...Lord Garth's parting shot at Serveaux is not the foundation on which we want to build a discussion here. Let's move on.
     
  13. BillJ

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    "Fans" is a fairly broad category, and those who don't enjoy certain elements have as much right to post their opinions as those who love the current shows.

    It is a message board, not a cheerleading squad.
     
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  14. The Wormhole

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    Oh, is that how it is?
    *Quickly hides pom-poms.*
     
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    Not just a cheerleader, you have to be Zombie Cheerleader.
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  16. Serveaux

    Serveaux Boomer American Premium Member

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    I'd say so. Seriously, if you cut everyone who hates large parts of whatever their fav show/movie is doing out of the mix the very phenomenon of "fandom" would probably go extinct at this point. :lol:
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    That would be ideal, yes.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    I love Trek. And there are even parts of episodes and films I love that I can find cringeworthy so...even when you win with Trek you can always find something you'd change or delete.
     
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    I would definitely not miss Spock's continuous ''everything you do, I can do better'' actions which undercut Scotty........particularly in TMP.
     
  20. GNDN18

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    Fair enough, but Scotty out-Spocked Spock in Generations and saved the day.

    Oh, those lines were meant for…? Never mind.
     
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