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Is It Time for a Bold New Star Trek Paradigm?

The problem with the camera thing is that it eliminates plot dilemmas. You'd have to keep explaining why the cameras malfunctioned or aren't in use for the hundredth time, which is a lot less believable than technology we don't have IRL, like transporters or warp drive, not being able to be used.
 
As one example that has always irked me, we already live in a near panopticon where we are surreptitiously recorded. Presumably near every portion of the ship would be under at least passive surveillance by the ship's computer. Yet so many plots revolve around not knowing what happened in someone's quarters. It's ridiculous within universe to exist, and if you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't be writing for a sci-fi show in a future setting.
I think it actually suits the setting that they're not being recorded, as that kind of invasion of privacy is off-putting and kind of dystopian. They've decided to accept the drawbacks of not having cameras for the comfort of having their own space.
 
It's a lot more natural to explain why there are cameras when there usually aren't than why there aren't any when there usually are. A positive excuse (documenting a particular mission, visiting a high-security area) vs a negative one (tech jammers, weird space phenomena)
 
I think it actually suits the setting that they're not being recorded, as that kind of invasion of privacy is off-putting and kind of dystopian. They've decided to accept the drawbacks of not having cameras for the comfort of having their own space.

To be clear, I don't think that any human being would actually be watching the feeds or anything. However, I do think the computer should at least be passively monitoring the ship everywhere. There shouldn't be any question (as an example) when a phaser is discharged, when a life sign goes out, etc.

Trek has also had numerous plots where people are in a jail and then audibly conspire on how to break out. Obviously some planets are more primitive, but this does stretch credulity, but I would think the baddies would have listening devices present.
 
Can this be stickied somewhere? Say, like, all over the internet?
Skilled storytellers thrive within limitations and are good are resolving contradictions in their narratives. They also know that the audience is paying attention and asking questions, and when they stop caring enough to do that, they'll have bigger problems as a writer.
 
Skilled storytellers thrive within limitations and are good are resolving contradictions in their narratives. They also know that the audience is paying attention and asking questions, and when they stop caring enough to do that, they'll have bigger problems as a writer.

In my mind, the difference between something looking like smart setup/payoff and dumb fanwank mostly boils down to coming back to having a "because" rather than a "and then." That is to say, you can play a bit fast/loose with continuity, but there absolutely needs to be some story reason you're bringing in an old aspect of the narrative, rather than just a random thing that happens to occur because people like it when you reference old shit.

TWOK is the most classic example of this in Star Trek. Yeah, it could be argued to be a very fanwanky movie, as it served as a direct sequel to a TOS episode which (while considered above average) was probably not in anyone's top 10 list prior, save for having a very famous cameo. However, Meyer realized there was a great hanging question, since at the end of Space Seed Khan was left alive marooned with the other augments. There was an open question to be explored.

One can argue that the core of TUC was built in a way around a similar question. TNG by that point was established, and we knew the Federation and the Klingon Empire were at peace. When did detente happen? How did it happen? It's a great question that demanded an answer.

Turning far ahead in production, to ENT, this can help explain both why their Ferengi episode was so awful, and their Borg episode so incredible. The Borg episode was built around an interesting lacunae from First Contact (what if some Borg crashed in the Arctic, and froze there?). It worked because although ENT in general was a prequel, it was a sequel to First Contact of sorts, with Zephram Cochrane standing as a ghost athwart the first season. In contrast, the NX-01 meets the Ferengi randomly. It's totally an "and then" with no prior because to explain it.
 
If "Acquisition" (2002) had suggested that Kol and Arridor had wound up being thrown back in time after the events of "False Profits" (1996), instead of inventing new Ferengi characters, would that have made it any better?
 
If "Acquisition" (2002) had suggested that Kol and Arridor had wound up being thrown back in time after the events of "False Profits" (1996), instead of inventing new Ferengi characters, would that have made it any better?

Modestly, I'd say, provided the end of that episode made it clear they were thrown back in time, rather than being an ENT-era retcon. Of course, False Profits was a "because" and was a different kind of failure.

I'd admire the chutzpa of creating a three-episode arc across three different shows and 13 years to such mediocre ends.
 
In my mind, the difference between something looking like smart setup/payoff and dumb fanwank mostly boils down to coming back to having a "because" rather than a "and then."
Yeah, it really helps for there to be a reason that something is being referenced.

In contrast, the NX-01 meets the Ferengi randomly. It's totally an "and then" with no prior because to explain it.
Yeah, they did a much better job of justifying why they were running into a Borg centuries early.

Encountering the Ferengi so close to Earth in that time period was just bizarre, as it means that every other Ferengi ship avoided the region for hundreds of years because... Archer yelled at them? Subverting the premise and selling point of their show to bring back the Ferengi was a sign they were out of ideas, and the quality of the story they came up with wasn't a great sign either!
 
Before I get to my main point, let me start by saying: I’ve been a lifelong Star Trek fan. I’ve enjoyed every era of Trek to varying degrees — including much of the modern content.

But lately, it feels like both the fans and the powers-that-be are stuck in a loop.

Let me explain with a thought experiment: imagine Star Trek: The Original Series never aired in the 1960s, but instead debuted in the 2000s. Imagine Gene Roddenberry was alive today and launched a modern version of Trek. We all fall in love with the characters, and it becomes a major franchise. As this new era comes to an end, fans and studios are buzzing online about how to continue it. Some suggest a Sulu spinoff. Others want series centered around supporting characters from the Enterprise crew.

What would likely follow? Probably shows like Strange New Worlds or Picard — series built directly on existing characters and settings.

And yet, when Roddenberry launched The Next Generation, he didn’t take the easy, commercially safe route. Nobody was asking for a new crew 100 years in the future — but that’s what we got. It wasn’t a financial decision, it was a creative one. A bold one. Instead of clinging to familiar characters, Roddenberry pushed Trek forward. Sure, Dr. McCoy made a cameo in the pilot, but TNG was essentially a clean slate — and it worked.

What followed was a rich era of storytelling: DS9, Voyager, Enterprise — mostly rooted in that new foundation.

Since then, we’ve circled back with prequels (Enterprise, Discovery, SNW) and legacy continuations (Picard). And while we’ve seen creative variations like Lower Decks and Prodigy, they’re still anchored in familiar time periods and established canon.

I get it. Fans want more of what they love — more Picard, more Spock, more 24th-century lore. That’s natural. But if the internet existed in 1986, I bet most fans would’ve preferred more Kirk and Spock back then too.

So here’s the question:
How does Star Trek reinvent itself without losing its identity?

You can tweak the format. Change the tone. Add animated comedy. But what Star Trek really needs, in my opinion, is a true paradigm shift — like TNG was to TOS. But perhaps an even bigger one. A new age or mode of discovery.

Here’s my idea:
All 11 Trek series and 13 movies (so far) have mostly taken place within the Milky Way galaxy. So, what if the next evolution of Star Trek is set in another galaxy?

Imagine a Star fleet crew exploring an entirely new region of space — a setting not dominated by humanoid species. Still grounded in Trek values. Still with some human characters to keep it relatable. But narratively unshackled from Klingons, Romulans, and even the Federation as we know it.

Would it be popular? I don’t know.
Would it feel like Trek? I believe it could — if it holds true to the spirit of exploration, ethics, and discovery.

For the record, I love a lot of modern Trek. Big fan of Picard Season 3 and Strange New Worlds. I still enjoy the TNG era deeply, and of course, TOS will always be special.

Would I love to see more from those eras? Absolutely.

But looking at the big picture, maybe it’s time for Trek to step beyond the familiar. I’m not talking about genre-bending or changing its core identity — I’m talking about injecting it with fresh energy the way TNG once did but still Star Trek at its heart. As much as Lower Decks and Discovery was different, its still tied to the established eras within Trek. Yes Discovery went to the 32nd century, and maybe that's where it should of started , Maybe a more universally praised/executed version of that series set in the future from day 1 would of worked.

What do you think? Is it time for a bold new direction ? Or should we just be happy with more variations within tge existing eras?

does this mean like a brand new star trek universe within the multiverse with like new storylines aliens creatures planets and characters
 
A bold new Trek paradigm would be to dispense with the space opera trappings and move toward the cutting-edge concepts proposed by futurists. The whole notion of crewed spacecraft going out to explore the galaxy is hopelessly antiquated. They speak instead of "mind uploading" to automated long-distance probes. Now there's some riveting drama... watching a probe float through space and record scans of space dust for an hour.

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A bold new Trek paradigm would be to dispense with the space opera trappings and move toward the cutting-edge notions proposed by futurists. The whole notion of crewed spacecraft going out to explore the galaxy is hopelessly antiquated.
Stargates!

They speak instead of "mind uploading" to automated long-distance probes. Now there's some riveting drama... watching a probe float through space and record scans of space dust for an hour.
Oh.

Well, maybe they could upload to synthetic humanoid probes on a spaceship and go on weekly adventures.
 
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