If you were in charge of a Trek reboot, what ten things would you change?

[Dispaminite]

1. United Federation of Planets would be a treaty/agreement between (around) 12 of the most know Federation Races. (Human, Vulcan, Andorian, Tellerite, Betezed, Denobulan,Trills..ect). It provide a defensive and intelligence sharing along with a strong economic/scientific cooperative (similiar to NATO) that has been in effect for about 50 to 70 years.

2. Each race would have their own space Navy. The United Earth would be Starfleet. Each race would have it's own navy and ship design.

3. It would be clear Statfleet is a military organization.

4. After a relative period of peace between the various interstellar powers (UFP, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians), Starfleet has decided to launch a ship of exploration in a cooperation between the various races in the UFP) It would be a primarily human ship, but would include representatives of the various races that are part of the UFP. It would head into deep unexplored space.

5. It would include a delegation of Vulcans led by legendary Ambassador Sarek, the Vulcan most people believe responsible for the Federation Treaty and the negotiation of the peace treaty between the Klingons and Romulans roughly 30 years ago). Possible contribution by other races.

6. The main purpose of the mission, which is only known to a select few members of the crew.

7. The exploration wouldn't be just one ship but a fleet of around 5-8 ships. The USS Enterprise would be one of them.

8. Technology would be classic Trek (Warp, Phasers, Shields, Transporters, Replicators) but with more hard rules established. (Beaming taking around 30 seconds to complete and you have to remain completely stationary. It would be loud and noisy as to prevent using it for stealth).

9. No technobabble. The audience doesn't care.

 

[BillJ]

Just one thing: Starfleet as a true science/exploration service. NOAA in space.

 

[Herbert]

Just one thing: Starfleet as a true science/exploration service. NOAA in space.

Who would be the military arm?

 

[BillJ]

Who would be the military arm?

Don't care. It would be interesting to have the show about actual scientists and explorers.

 

[Herbert]

Regarding diversity, it seems silly that we don't see more non-humans and more non-humanoids as members of ship crews. I know that in a lot of cases it boiled down real world concerns such as budgets but an organization like the Federation and Starfleet should feature many more alien races and cultures. Star Trek, in that regard, should look more like the creatures you see in the cantina in Mos Eisley

 

[Herbert]

Don't care. It would be interesting to have the show about actual scientists and explorers.

Explorers frequently run into hostile situations. Then what? Doesn't seem plausible to completely eliminate combat/military from Star Trek. Reduce it yes but not completely get rid of it.
I'm with you though an wanting to see more pure exploration. I would have liked to have seen more of that in Next Gen.

 

[Herbert]

1) Add more random consumption of sentient species
2) Add more lens flare
3) Add more subtitles... all species should talk in their actual languages, no easy peasy "English" translations
4) Skants.... lots of skants
5) Three words: Captain Wesley Crusher
6) Make it animated.

Now we're talking!

 

[Nyotarules]

Does it matter? The Prime Timeline is unaffected.

As Teal'C says in Stargate SG1 the only reality that matters is the one I am in. So for the Kelvinverse characters their universe is the Prime one lol

 

[uniderth]

Regarding diversity, it seems silly that we don't see more non-humans and more non-humanoids as members of ship crews. I know that in a lot of cases it boiled down real world concerns such as budgets but an organization like the Federation and Starfleet should feature many more alien races and cultures. Star Trek, in that regard, should look more like the creatures you see in the cantina in Mos Eisley

Yeah but how realistic is the cantina from Mos Eisley really? Given the wide range of atmospheres, temperatures, and gravitational fields life could evolve in; it seems odd that that many species would find the same environment comfortable to be in. I think it makes much more sense to group species that have similar environmental requirements together on one ship and have that ship accommodate that one environment. Spock said he found the Enterprise to be cold.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Another idea occurred to me seeing the number of human-only ship and Federation being more than a cordiale than an alliance ideas going around.

The premise of the show would follow that sort of notion, the 'Federation' isn't as unified as we've had before, but the worlds that are working together for whatever shared benefit agree to a joint venture, forming a true "wagon train to the stars". Each world is assigning a ship to a convoy of exploration, to go out and study a previously unknown region, forming a flotilla of vessels heading out into deep space, a star fleet if you will.

 

[Tenacity]

The premise of the show would follow that sort of notion, the 'Federation' isn't as unified as we've had before, but the worlds that are working together for whatever shared benefit agree to a joint venture,

This much I would definately agree with.

Spock said he found the Enterprise to be cold

But that was when he was accerated to a advance age.

So for the Kelvinverse characters their universe is the Prime one lol

No, you could say their universe was theirs, but not that it was the prime Star Trek universe.

 

[Herbert]

Yeah but how realistic is the cantina from Mos Eisley really? Given the wide range of atmospheres, temperatures, and gravitational fields life could evolve in; it seems odd that that many species would find the same environment comfortable to be in. I think it makes much more sense to group species that have similar environmental requirements together on one ship and have that ship accommodate that one environment. Spock said he found the Enterprise to be cold.

Oh, I agree it's not a black and white issue. There would always be some details to iron out but you have to start somewhere.
I mean let's look at the bridge crew in Next Gen. We have a bunch of humans. Then we have a Klingon. That's great! Oh wait, he was raised by humans and as a result is not a true representation of Klingon culture. Then we have a Betazoid, awesome! oh wait, she's half human. D'oh! I got it! Let's have an sentient android, Brilliant! An android who wants to emulate humans

And let's not even get into someone like Q who chooses a (surprise, surprise) human form. Kevin Uxbridge meets a human woman and decides to live as a human. Why couldn't that story have involved another race?

I'm not saying that any of this would have been preferable, or even doable given all sorts of constraints and desires but when you really think about this, it doesn't make much sense in universe for Star Trek to be so human centric. Most alien races seem to exist in Star Trek as mostly background texture, or plot devices. You'll never see a Starfleet bridge crew where the aliens outnumber the humans.

 

[Forbin]

Explorers frequently run into hostile situations. Then what? Doesn't seem plausible to completely eliminate combat/military from Star Trek. Reduce it yes but not completely get rid of it.
I'm with you though an wanting to see more pure exploration. I would have liked to have seen more of that in Next Gen.

The way I resolve questions like that is to try to compare the concept to present day reality. Are today's explorers frequently in lots of danger? Are they armed? Are they armed to the extent Star Trek characters/ships are?

Like, if a group of scientists is taking a boat up the Amazon to search for hidden, unknown groups of natives, does the boat have a deck cannon, machine gun turrets and torpedoes? Or is there maybe just a locker aboard with a shotgun and a rifle?

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

You'll never see a Starfleet bridge crew where the aliens outnumber the humans.

Not if I was running things! Audiences would have a token human who, when compared to all of their alien shipmates, would probably come off as pretty dull--not Chakotay or Kim level dullness, but it would probably be pretty close.

 

[Herbert]

The way I resolve questions like that is to try to compare the concept to present day reality. Are today's explorers frequently in lots of danger? Are they armed? Are they armed to the extent Star Trek characters/ships are?

Like, if a group of scientists is taking a boat up the Amazon to search for hidden, unknown groups of natives, does the boat have a deck cannon, machine gun turrets and torpedoes? Or is there maybe just a locker aboard with a shotgun and a rifle?

Yes, but explorers in present day reality aren't likely to travel to hundreds/thousands of light years to remote sections of the galaxy where they might encounter hostile races like the Borg, or Species 8472, or the Hirogen, or any of a number of other known, unknown, or undiscovered threats. The idea of pure exploration without the ability to defend yourself is not very realistic. Sending a ship full of explorers into space on a ship that's not properly equipped to defend itself is also not very realistic and not very smart either.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

The way I resolve questions like that is to try to compare the concept to present day reality. Are today's explorers frequently in lots of danger? Are they armed? Are they armed to the extent Star Trek characters/ships are?

Like, if a group of scientists is taking a boat up the Amazon to search for hidden, unknown groups of natives, does the boat have a deck cannon, machine gun turrets and torpedoes? Or is there maybe just a locker aboard with a shotgun and a rifle?

Actually, deck guns and marines weren't uncommon on old "Age of Sail" expeditions. For instance, HM Bark Endevour - Captain Cook's research vessel for the voyage to Australia - carried 10 four pounders and 12 (up to 1 1/2 inch) swivel guns. Less than a rated vessel, but still armed. They also carried a squad of Royal Marines.

 

[Vger23]

Who would be the military arm?

No need for this in my Star Trek. In my Star Trek, Jean Luc Picard is the Sovereign Regent of the Universe. All species across all dimensions are unified in harmony, and work to explore the very fabric of our existence arm-in-arm, enriching themselves with classic literature, philosophy, archaeology, philanthropy and Earl Gray Tea. Diplomacy is a skill that is engrained in every living organism as much as breathing air is for us now. 3/4 of every episode is a monologue about how superior this way of living is to any other, particularly better than the human idiots of the 20th and 21st centuries.

There are no bridges on starships. The "control center" is simply a conference room, and that is where the majority of the plot takes place.

There is no action. In this future, action and adventure are outlawed. Anyone caught doing anything exciting is confined to 5 days in a lab with Geordi and Data taking about positronic networks and tachyons.

We don't beam down to planets to explore them. We spend days doing an meticulous scan of the terrain and life forms, and we re-create that in the holodeck. You have to go into the holodeck dressed like Dixon Hill though.

I believe the fans would like this.

#roddenberry

 

[Tenacity]

3/4 of every episode is a monologue about how superior this way of living is to any other, particularly better than the human idiots of the 20th and 21st centuries.

Lost me right there.

Why would I watch a show about a group of people who hold me in contempt? Yes, Picard did just this, and that attitude painted Picard as a clueless boob.

it seems odd that that many species would find the same environment comfortable to be in.

The Mos Eisley cantina is where pirates, smugglers and other shady characters come to conduct business, they're not there for comfort.

 

[Valenti]

Q called him a dullard. Quite right.

 

[fireproof78]

Not if I was running things! Audiences would have a token human who, when compared to all of their alien shipmates, would probably come off as pretty dull--not Chakotay or Kim level dullness, but it would probably be pretty close.

Why do we want humans to be dull in the story?

Hooray! Characters I can identify with because they are as dull as I am!