The original BSG took itself seriously? You are making this up as you go along, aren't you?
I don't know how I feel about Torchwood
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Apart from the occasional smart remark by Starbuck, yeah, I think it did. It certainly wasn't the non-stop parade of nihilism and bloodshed that the remake was. And TOS Baltar was a deadly serious villain, and more importantly, we *knew* he was. Not the goofball that Gaius Baltar was.
Torchwood took itself too seriously at first. Shows can only get away with that if they're good. The Wire can take itself seriously.
Now, Torchwood isn't bad, but it's not *that* good. And thus it improved overall when it reduced its serious-taking-ness down to a level more in line with its actual quality in season 2.
Still need to see season 3. DVDs are ordered.
For instance, one of the problems with Enterprise was that the writers thought Archer was a better captain than they ever demonstrated him to be. If they'd been just slightly more self-aware when writing the show, they could have played off the viewer reaction rather than pushing against it, giving us a better product in the process. Oh well....
Want to know why everyone is so iffy about SGU? Because it's increased the serious-taking-ness quotient, and nobody's yet sure if it really has the quality to back that up or not.
You know this is the Doctor Who forum, right? There are shows that take themselves very seriously indeed, but Doctor Who is not one of them.
This I don't get at all. In what way did Firefly not take itself seriously? By being funny sometimes, like Star Trek? And is it possible for any show to take itself more seriously than the new Galactica did?
I think what he means is he doesn't like it when a show doesn't fit his narrow and prudish standards. I mean he has been saying he has some fairly prudish views and plenty of neuroses.
I saw it as the typical Joss Whedon "everybody's a smartass" type of show. That does tend to get on my nerves.
Well, I wouldn't put it quite that bad, I mean despite what you may have read from others here, I'm not borderline insane or anything like that
. I guess I do have narrow "tastes" (I wouldn't call them standards, 'cuz I'm not trying to impose on anyone else). Constant sex talk does make me a tad nervous, I do admit that...And yes, I'm well aware that there are times when DW in general doesn't take itself seriously. Why do you think my favorite Doctor is the third? (well, that one and the Richard Hurndall version of the first) Those were probably the most serious and businesslike Doctors there were.
As for Torchwood: Tell you what. I'll make a deal with you all. I will search my DVR's channel guide and watch the first TW episode it finds. Will that satisfy you?
^It's your choice entirely, and I wasn't trying to be insulting with that post I was just going off what you'd said in this thread and a couple of other.
Torchwood, I wouldn't recommend a random sampling because of the 31 or so episodes I would only say there are about 19 good ones so chances are high you'll get a bad one. If you get the chance watch series 3 though, it's a fantastic piece of television.
Doctor Who I would, there are many very good episodes from the past 4 series.
Torchwood, I wouldn't recommend a random sampling because of the 31 or so episodes I would only say there are about 19 good ones so chances are high you'll get a bad one. If you get the chance watch series 3 though, it's a fantastic piece of television.
Doctor Who I would, there are many very good episodes from the past 4 series.
There are no episodes of Torchwood coming up, according to my DVR. I will keep looking for one.
Lindley: Interesting that you should mention Enterprise, as that was my favorite Trek series of all time. Now do you understand me a bit better?
I must confess that the Wiki browsing I've been doing, has not exactly been encouraging. This Jack guy, for instance. He seems like the typical arrogant Lothario who won't take no for an answer....characters like that have always irritated me. (i.e. Han Solo, Tom Paris, the Abramsverse version of Jim Kirk, etc.)
There's a lot of talk about how Jack loves and will hit on - and presumably nail - anybody and everybody (kind of like Frank Booth from Blue Velvet). Guess he doesn't take rejection lightly, eh?
Lindley: Interesting that you should mention Enterprise, as that was my favorite Trek series of all time. Now do you understand me a bit better?
I must confess that the Wiki browsing I've been doing, has not exactly been encouraging. This Jack guy, for instance. He seems like the typical arrogant Lothario who won't take no for an answer....characters like that have always irritated me. (i.e. Han Solo, Tom Paris, the Abramsverse version of Jim Kirk, etc.)
There's a lot of talk about how Jack loves and will hit on - and presumably nail - anybody and everybody (kind of like Frank Booth from Blue Velvet). Guess he doesn't take rejection lightly, eh?
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Wait, are you saying Kirk wasn't a Lothario in TOS? He was always bedding women.
the difference now its the woman he beds have been given a personality
So you're only a Lothario if the women you're bedding aren't cardboard cut outs?
not exactly no, but if he only bedded women without much of a personality, it does not invite comment from the womans POV, as its just a case of Kirk sleeping with another woman.
Where as if you give the woman a personality, its also a case of the woman sleeping with Kirk.
Where as if you give the woman a personality, its also a case of the woman sleeping with Kirk.
Bob: TOS Kirk only got with maybe two women in the entirety of the actual show. He had at least one *past* relationship (Carol Marcus). But he wasn't anywhere near the shameless horndog that nuKirk is. Or that Jack seems to be.
I'm not following.
I'm not following.
I guess I don't remember the show too well then because I seem to remember at least 3 times in the show, and probably more, but I never did watch TOS much.Bob: TOS Kirk only got with maybe two women in the entirety of the actual show. He had at least one *past* relationship (Carol Marcus). But he wasn't anywhere near the shameless horndog that nuKirk is. Or that Jack seems to be.
I'm not following.
ANd I think David means he'd have to take rejection pretty lightly to try it on so many different people.
Lindley: Interesting that you should mention Enterprise, as that was my favorite Trek series of all time. Now do you understand me a bit better?
Oh. You're one of them.
He's lost to us, folks.....
Lindley: Interesting that you should mention Enterprise, as that was my favorite Trek series of all time. Now do you understand me a bit better?
Oh. You're one of them.
He's lost to us, folks.....
So he likes boring characters doing boring things. Got it.
Okay, I finished Season 2, and I'm really glad the last few episodes got really serious. That was some good TV. I'm heading over to my parents' house tonight an stealing "Children of Earth" from my dad.
Speak for yourself. It sure wasn't boring for me.
As for Torchwood, well, if it will make you all happy, I did say I'd watch an episode (but as I said, there are none coming up in the immediate future). Just don't get your hopes up as to what my reaction to it will be...
I honestly couldn't care less about your reaction to it.
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