Hulu confirms The Orville Season 4

[BillJ]

And again, this is the Orville thread, so we should drop this.

Yes, Mr. Moderator!

 

[ELURIA]

You're repeating the same commonplace error of perception that I've been seeing fans make for decades. Over time, the human brain edits its memories to create a consistent narrative. We rationalize or forget the contradictions we see in the shows and films and convince ourselves over time that the continuity is more consistent than it actually is. But with newer productions, we haven't had time to fit them into our homogenized memory of the series, creating the illusion that their inconsistencies are greater than those of past works.

In any case, we should both remember that this is a thread about The Orville, so this debate about Star Trek really doesn't belong here.

Posting a wall of text full of pseudo‑psychological "analysis" to reframe fair and reasonable statements as mere cognitive errors is pretty strange.

TRON JA307020 was clearly engaging in good faith, by addressing things directly, offering in‑universe explanations, while pointing out Kurtzman Trek's scale of blatant canonical inconsistencies compared to before.

When such straightforward factual points are then met with a long, authoritative lecture about how the other person’s perception is supposedly flawed, it stops being a discussion and starts feeling gaslighting‑adjacent. Because it takes the normal, reasonable statements and suddenly reinterprets them as cognitive mistakes.

That is a category error because it redirects the discussion away from the actual points and into personal territory.

And to then shut down any response with a casual "let’s move on" doesn’t resolve the discussion, it simply prevents people who raised fair points from replying with the equivalent of “Here’s why your mind is wrong and you’re not allowed to respond.”

That dynamic is quite troubling.

Hopefully, future posts in the Orville thread can stay focused on the content itself rather than drifting into yet another impromptu seminar on How Your Brain Is Wrong and condescending cognitive "diagnoses" of other people's mental faculties

 

[Set Harth]

Khan could have easily seen chemotherapy on the ship off screen.

This is the worst autocorrect fail I've ever seen.

 

[BillJ]

…while pointing out Kurtzman Trek's scale of blatant canonical inconsistencies compared to before.

This is what Star Trek has always been. It isn’t a history of the future or a military handbook, it is simply entertainment and should be judged based on whether or not it is entertaining.

Personally, I think the live-action CBS fare blows because it is just incredibly dull but absolutely love both Lower Decks and Prodigy.

 

[TRON JA307020]

This is the worst autocorrect fail I've ever seen.

Opposies. Sorry. I use my phone. Not the best eye sight. Lol

Fixed it.

 

[EnderAKH]

This is the worst autocorrect fail I've ever seen.

I will only refer to him as Chemotherapy from now on. This is the law.

 

[Set Harth]

This is the way.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I will only refer to him as Chemotherapy from now on. This is the law.

This is the way.

That wouldn't be nice.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

This is what Star Trek has always been. It isn’t a history of the future or a military handbook, it is simply entertainment and should be judged based on whether or not it is entertaining.

I'd watch a Star Trek series that was just a history of the future documentary and I'm not even joking.

 

[JD]

Posting a wall of text full of pseudo‑psychological "analysis" to reframe fair and reasonable statements as mere cognitive errors is pretty strange.

TRON JA307020 was clearly engaging in good faith, by addressing things directly, offering in‑universe explanations, while pointing out Kurtzman Trek's scale of blatant canonical inconsistencies compared to before.

When such straightforward factual points are then met with a long, authoritative lecture about how the other person’s perception is supposedly flawed, it stops being a discussion and starts feeling gaslighting‑adjacent. Because it takes the normal, reasonable statements and suddenly reinterprets them as cognitive mistakes.

That is a category error because it redirects the discussion away from the actual points and into personal territory.

And to then shut down any response with a casual "let’s move on" doesn’t resolve the discussion, it simply prevents people who raised fair points from replying with the equivalent of “Here’s why your mind is wrong and you’re not allowed to respond.”

That dynamic is quite troubling.

Hopefully, future posts in the Orville thread can stay focused on the content itself rather than drifting into yet another impromptu seminar on How Your Brain Is Wrong and condescending cognitive "diagnoses" of other people's mental faculties

Well, I completely disagree with pretty much everything @TRON JA307020 , so I don't see anything wrong with what @Christopher was saying. This is a discussion board and people are going to disagree, so it's not fair to come in and tell people they can't disagree with other posters. It's gonna be really hard to have real conversations is no one is ever allowed to disagree.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Well, I completely disagree with pretty much everything @TRON JA307020 , so I don't see anything wrong with what @Christopher was saying. This is a discussion board and people are going to disagree, so it's not fair to come in and tell people they can't disagree with other posters. It's gonna be really hard to have real conversations is no one is ever allowed to disagree.

I think the disagreements is what makes star trek fun. We all have our views on it. I have no ill will toward anyone who disagrees with me. I just really enjoy talking about it.

 

[JD]

As long as things don't get personal, I'm happy to disagree too.