How big was the Enterprise?

[Tango]

Yes. The framing device is that a routine transmission of the SFTM to the Enterprise was accidentally deposited into US military computers during the time-warp that threw the ship into the 20th Century in “Tomorrow is Yesterday”.

That event occured around Stardate 3113, but in the SFTM there are numerous references to Stardates after that, up to Stardate 7500 or so. Although Star Fleet edited the material stored in the 20th Century to protect the timeline that doesn’t explain the Stardate weirdness (but Stardates *are* weird as we all know).

I wonder who went back in time to edit the material (but how that all works from a time-travel perspective I’m not sure - time travel in Star Trek is weirder than Stardates). I had always thought that going back to the 1960s again just to do some historical research was a pretty thin excuse. Perhaps they had a secret mission that didn’t go into the Captain’s Log. Did Gary Seven get involved? Someone should write that story.

 

[MANT!]

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[Hellbird]

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I can hear the Kenny Loggins just looking at those F-14s.

 

[Maurice]

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The true size of the Enterprise revealed

The decks are all tilted 35.5° to starboard.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

How big was the Enterprise? Well, they had room for a bridge, a briefing room, sickbay, engineering, a transporter room, a hangar deck, crew quarters, turbolifts, and some corridors.

So that.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

This guy knows how big the Enterprise was for sure

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[The Salt Umpire]

I can hear the Kenny Loggins just looking at those F-14s.

I only ever built the 60s 1/720 scale Revell Enterprise with the square island and A-4 Skyhawks. The painted box cover sure was enough to excite my kid imagination. (edit) not seeing the square island confused me in The Voyage Home.

 

[Warp Core Breach]

I only ever built the 60s 1/720 scale Revell Enterprise with the square island and A-4 Skyhawks. The painted box cover sure was enough to excite my kid imagination.

Nooo-Cleee-Arrr Wessels.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

And it wasn't really the Enterprise in ST4, it was the Ranger.

 

[Henoch]

And it wasn't really the Enterprise in ST4, it was the Ranger.

Which isn't even a nuclear wessel.

 

[BK613]

And it wasn't really the Enterprise in ST4, it was the Ranger.

Which isn't even a nuclear wessel.

And Ranger wasn't even in Alameda, Was in San Diego (well, North Island NAS, actually.)

 

[XCV330]

The SFTM itself says in effect in its forewords that its contents might have been altered to protect the timeline.

I always liked how they added an actual working circuit for the communicator. It's just an AM walkie talkie for CB band (though it includes 49mhz was used to be used for toys, radio control, baby monitors, cordless phones). But as a nerdy kid with with an amateur radio license it also kind of broke the fourth wall too much for me since I was pretty sure that thing would have a range of about 100 feet and sound like an old record played through a tiny catfood can with catfood still in it.

That and the fact the author took the time to put the pattern for Starfleet officer panties in the book.

So yes, certainly altered.

 

[Tallguy]

And Ranger wasn't even in Alameda, Was in San Diego (well, North Island NAS, actually.)

It's all LIES.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

That and the fact the author took the time to put the pattern for Starfleet officer panties in the book.

But seriously, that was so that the female fans' costumes could be complete, right?

 

[XCV330]

But seriously, that was so that the female fans' costumes could be complete, right?

I would scoff but..

can we have underwear, tank tops and dolphin shorts?

we have underwear tank tops and dolphin shorts at home

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I would scoff but..
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can we have underwear, tank tops and dolphin shorts?

we have underwear tank tops and dolphin shorts at home

The panties under the dresses were seen onscreen in a few episodes. They weren't per se undergarments, but the same material and color as the uniforms.

 

[XCV330]

The panties under the dresses were seen onscreen in a few episodes. They weren't per se undergarments, but the same material and color as the uniforms.

I've seen Turkish Star Trek. IYKYK

 

[DarrenTR1970]

This guy knows how big the Enterprise was for sure

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What I would like to know is, why did it take naval engineers so long to discover the deck edge elevator?

You would think those involved in air operations wouldn't want to have two or three gaping holes in their flight deck while you're waiting to take off or orbiting to land; and if one of those elevators got knocked out by a bomb hit, launch and recovery would be slowed until the lift was covered over.

An arrangement of one port side lift and two starboard side lifts would have removed the need to keep the flight deck closed while bringing planes to the deck.

You could have potentially brought up a plane on the port side and starboard side forward lift to launch planes while simultaneously recovering and lowering planes to the hanger deck with the starboard side aft elevator.

The fact that it took 20+ years after the introduction of the aircraft carriers for the Essex and Midway classes to introduce a port side elevator, and then 10+ years after that for the Forrestal class to have a flight deck comprised of four deck edge elevators, when, you think someone would have had an "Ah ha" moment earlier.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

What I would like to know is, why did it take naval engineers so long to discover the deck edge elevator?

Google searching the boldfaced text produces AI-generated results.

I won't quote those results, because a) I cannot endorse them and b) basically anyone could do that for themselves.

They are interesting results though, and possibly relevant. We live in an age of wonders, as some might say or might have said.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

The Wasp (CV-7) had the first deck edge elevator. As for why it took so long? The navy was conservative and hidebound.