How big was the Enterprise?

[Phaser Two]

I have several different WIP Enterprise sizes; for a 947' ship I use the 3/4 ratio rule on the hangar model, so the hangar's new dimensions are 122'x3/4 = 91.5' length, etc. The hangar door size fits fairly nice at this scale. I always insert a 24' shuttlecraft per Kirk's dialog in The Galileo Seven. (Note my curved corridors. )
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For a ship to fit the 122' length hangar model and also fitting it to the hangar doors again, I found a up-scaled ship size using the 4/3 ratio rule which is 947'x4/3 =1263' which works quite well. YMMV
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This is fantastic-looking. Thank you for sharing it. EPS conduits and systems! Why not? And you have main engineering on the same deck! But where are the huge library-shelf-like structures through which Kirk hunts Finney (and earlier, himself)?

AND ON EDIT: now you added the armory and ship's stores!! I love it! Busy deck.

 

[SatrianiRules]

LOA 947 feet.

And it's rather telling (and ironic) that the Klingon ship was first seen in "The Enterprise Incident" as a Klingon-built Romulan ship.

I love that story, it was a behind the scenes logistical problem. They had three Klingon Ship models and they only had one Romulan model (from Balance of Terror). even in 1968 the cost to build a ship model for filming was about $4000. Gene simply didn't have $8000 to spend for that episode, so they had to change the script wherein Romulans were "now using Klingon designs...".

 

[Henoch]

I love that story, it was a behind the scenes logistical problem. They had three Klingon Ship models and they only had one Romulan model (from Balance of Terror). even in 1968 the cost to build a ship model for filming was about $4000. Gene simply didn't have $8000 to spend for that episode, so they had to change the script wherein Romulans were "now using Klingon designs...".

Plus, after Balance of Terror, Wah Chang took the Romulan model home where it mysteriously "disappeared" (rumor is he destroyed it in his backyard so it couldn't be used again). Because Chang wasn't in the union, Desilu couldn't pay for it.

 

[UssGlenn]

I love that story, it was a behind the scenes logistical problem. They had three Klingon Ship models and they only had one Romulan model (from Balance of Terror). even in 1968 the cost to build a ship model for filming was about $4000. Gene simply didn't have $8000 to spend for that episode, so they had to change the script wherein Romulans were "now using Klingon designs...".

The multiple ships are all the same model, composited in to the scene 3 times. The Romulan model wasn't available for filming at all, as mentioned above.

 

[Tomalak]

Plus AMT had bankrolled the new model and wanted it to have some screen time to sell model kits.

 

[YouAreDooomed]

Spoiler: SNW 3x07

It strikes me that this time it simply says "190,000 METRIC TONS" without a defining quantity like the dubious "gross tonnage" from DSC, while 442.6 m is specified as the length.
The metric ton is obviously a unit of mass, and one would probably assume the number pertains at least to the ship's empty "weight," but we do not know if and to what extent that includes fuel, cargo, crew, passengers and other stuff.
A cargo capacity or something like the deadweight tonnage of 190,000 tonnes would also be possible.

 

[Yistaan]

I think we can safely say the vast increase in crew by TOS may be the in-universe reason for rehauling the interior and giving Kirk a much smaller captain's quarters than Pike has.

 

[Henoch]

I think we can safely say the vast increase in crew by TOS may be the in-universe reason for rehauling the interior and giving Kirk a much smaller captain's quarters than Pike has.

I think the current ship is already in the WNMHGB second pilot configuration. Externally, the reimagined TOS Enterprise should stay similar looking to this but remove the bridge window, add globes to aft ends of the nacelles and possibly simplify the impulse engine exhaust. Internally, yes, they need to rehab the living quarters to double the crew capacity, so, smaller quarters for everyone (sorry Captain, but the kitchen and fireplace has to go ). The fully stocked bar in the rec room also gets the axe. YMMV

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

With Kirk being more of a go-on-every-landing-party, read-books-for-fun guy, maybe he reasons he spends little time in his quarters doing something which takes up lots of room and doesn't need the extra space.

 

[blssdwlf]

I think the current ship is already in the WNMHGB second pilot configuration. Externally, the reimagined TOS Enterprise should stay similar looking to this but remove the bridge window, add globes to aft ends of the nacelles and possibly simplify the impulse engine exhaust. Internally, yes, they need to rehab the living quarters to double the crew capacity, so, smaller quarters for everyone (sorry Captain, but the kitchen and fireplace has to go ). The fully stocked bar in the rec room also gets the axe. YMMV

Or perhaps after experiencing the wireless outage in the previous episode (3x06) Kirk's Enterprise is completely rewired with intercoms and other hardened equipment which used up a significant amount of the free space resulting in smaller quarters. This also upped the ship to "nearly a million gross tons of vessel"


Edit: SNW's episode 3x06

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Or perhaps after experiencing the wireless outage in the previous episode (3x06)...

What's that wireless outage? 3x06 would be "Spectre of the Gun" in aired order, or "Spock's Brain" in production order.

The only wireless outages I can think of are Uhura's sabotage in "This Side of Paradise," or in "Wink of an Eye," due to Scalosian tampering, and anyway the final size of Kirk's quarters was established in "The Corbomite Maneuver." So you lost me!

 

[Tallguy]

What's that wireless outage? 3x06 would be "Spectre of the Gun" in aired order, or "Spock's Brain" in production order.

The only wireless outages I can think of are Uhura's sabotage in "This Side of Paradise," or in "Wink of an Eye," due to Scalosian tampering, and anyway the final size of Kirk's quarters was established in "The Corbomite Maneuver." So you lost me!

There are 2 kinds of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete information.

 

[Yistaan]

What's that wireless outage? 3x06 would be "Spectre of the Gun" in aired order, or "Spock's Brain" in production order.

The only wireless outages I can think of are Uhura's sabotage in "This Side of Paradise," or in "Wink of an Eye," due to Scalosian tampering, and anyway the final size of Kirk's quarters was established in "The Corbomite Maneuver." So you lost me!

The wireless outage is in reference to Strange New Worlds 3x06 where primitive tech needed to be grafted onto the Enterprise after an enemy ship cut off all internal communication.

 

[blssdwlf]

What's that wireless outage? 3x06 would be "Spectre of the Gun" in aired order, or "Spock's Brain" in production order.

The only wireless outages I can think of are Uhura's sabotage in "This Side of Paradise," or in "Wink of an Eye," due to Scalosian tampering, and anyway the final size of Kirk's quarters was established in "The Corbomite Maneuver." So you lost me!

Doh, sorry I should've said it was SNW's 3x06. @Yistaan explanation covers what happened

*Also IIRC, the SNW Enterprise's flight controls and sensors were jammed as well so they had to station people next to the port and starboard RCS thruster controls to manually fire them with Ortegas verbally calling on phone lines from the bridge while looking out the bridge window.

 

[HotRod]

*Also IIRC, the SNW Enterprise's flight controls and sensors were jammed as well so they had to station people next to the port and starboard RCS thruster controls to manually fire them with Ortegas verbally calling on phone lines from the bridge while looking out the bridge window.

Further proof that a Window/ View-Screen combo is better than just a View-Screen.