How big was the Enterprise?

[BK613]

That Duranium is very dense...

Starships don't actually have to float...so it can be.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

The weight is also completely different. Notice that I say "weight ", and not "mass". The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 '" displaces"' 190,000 versus the displacement of the USS Enterprise CVA-65.

USS Enteprise (CV-6)
Displacement
May 1938 - October 1943
19,800 tons standard
25,500 tons full load
From October 1943:
21,000 tons standard
32,060 tons full load

USS Enterperise (CVN-65)
Displacement
93,284-long-tons (94,781 tonnes) full load

USS Enterprise (CVN-80)
Displacement (Projected)
About 100,000-long-tons (100,000 tonnes) full load

The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 weighs about 90,000 tons more than her carrier predecessor's. Where is all the extra weight coming from?

 

[Zycho32]

USS Enteprise (CV-6)
Displacement
May 1938 - October 1943
19,800 tons standard
25,500 tons full load
From October 1943:
21,000 tons standard
32,060 tons full load

USS Enterperise (CVN-65)
Displacement
93,284-long-tons (94,781 tonnes) full load

USS Enterprise (CVN-80)
Displacement (Projected)
About 100,000-long-tons (100,000 tonnes) full load

The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 weighs about 90,000 tons more than her carrier predecessor's. Where is all the extra weight coming from?

1. Significantly denser alloys on outer hull that may withstand a glancing blow from an object while traveling at relativistic speeds as well as all manner of radiation, heat, and cold that one encounters in the vacuum of space.
2. Denser fuel in order to travel at relativistic speeds for distances that would otherwise be impossibilities. No matter how efficient Matter/Anti-Matter mixtures actually are, you still need a lot of it to go from star to star.
3. Denser alloys in certain internal machinery, such as the fuel tanks and engine components, organic/non-organic processors, virtually all of the nacelles, the turbolift system, etc.

Those are the bits I'm sure of. Other possibilities include a greater cargo storage capacity(I don't think the Carriers ever had to theoretically be deployed for five straight years without any kind of replenishing of supplies) as well as a significant increase in internal equipment as compared to the carriers themselves.

 

[knightgrace]

Assume that 25 percent of the mass, is hull...

Closed loop recycling is absolutely required. Meaning little in the way of supplies. But for emergency support services, that is another question.

The USS Enterprise NCC-1701 could be made of politicians...

A long time ago there was a Sentor Proxmire, who, according to one wit said that he absorbed Neutrinos.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yeah, I always cringe a little when they use "displacement" for a spaceship. Displacement indicates the amount of water pushed away when a ship is in it.
What is it displacing in a vacuum?

It's for when they hide the ship under water

 

[Nerys Myk]

Stargate felt more to me like TOS than other Star Trek shows did. I would rank SG among the better Star Trek shows but not as high as TOS or DS9. Definitely better than the lesser Star Trek shows.

I tried very hard to like Stargate. Gave each iteration a chance. Never quite landed for me.

 

[knightgrace]

By the way, I Believe that the United States Ship Des Moines, a WW II Heavy Cruiser, displaced 19,000 tons. This was the last United States Navy Heavy Cruiser class actual built.
So the USS Enterprise NCC-1701, ten times this.
The question; 'What does this imply?'...

 

[Brannigan]

I've wanted to ask for a while, but what is the orange tube like thing running through the ship?

 

[Zycho32]

I've wanted to ask for a while, but what is the orange tube like thing running through the ship?

My guess is it's a power supply relay, given how it connects to the impulse engines and crosses the larger tube leading from engineering to the deflector dish. It also seems to ring around the 'inner edge' of the saucer's concavity. The yellow dots peppering said ring seem to point to what look like entrances, comparable to that one chamber Scotty had to crawl into during That Which Survives.

 

[Henoch]

The yellow dots peppering said ring seem to point to what look like entrances, comparable to that one chamber Scotty had to crawl into during That Which Survives.

I agree with the notion that the orange tubes are part of the power distribution system/EPS, but I think the "yellow dots" more likely represent an intersection/junction with circular tubes that run around the saucer; especially notice the two "dots" or junctions next to computer core. YMMV

 

[drt]

I've always liked the Drexler cross-section as it echoes my own thoughts to Enterprise's secondary hull essentially being constructed around BigMachines™.

 

[Phaser Two]

I hadn't seen that cross-section in a while and forgot all about it. Doesn't it show Sickbay on Deck 6, though? I also wonder if the "impulse deck" allows for the possibility of two engine rooms as I prefer. The drawing isn't really clear - I'm not sure I see the EMM and/or the raised section in either.

 

[Donald G]

I hadn't seen that cross-section in a while and forgot all about it. Doesn't it show Sickbay on Deck 6, though? I also wonder if the "impulse deck" allows for the possibility of two engine rooms as I prefer. The drawing isn't really clear - I'm not sure I see the EMM and/or the raised section in either.

To my eyes, enlarging the cutaway and counting the decks, it looks like Sickbay is on Deck 7, but the line pointing to it stops just short of the ceiling of Sickbay. Deck 6 on the cross-section is dominated by a horizontal turboshaft.

 

[Phaser Two]

To my eyes, enlarging the cutaway and counting the decks, it looks like Sickbay is on Deck 7, but the line pointing to it stops just short of the ceiling of Sickbay. Deck 6 on the cross-section is dominated by a horizontal turboshaft.

Oops, yeah - I think you're right. Nice eye.