Makes sense. We do see in TUC that the Klingons use holographic communications on a regular basis, as with Azetbur speaking with the Federation president. Such 3D communications can also be used to give the Klingons an early version of a holodeck, which ENT tells us they already have.
Hey, I never noticed that before....
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Makes sense. We do see in TUC that the Klingons use holographic communications on a regular basis, as with Azetbur speaking with the Federation president. Such 3D communications can also be used to give the Klingons an early version of a holodeck, which ENT tells us they already have.
I don't know. Sometimes they know a great deal in ENT that later they've completely forgotten about. The most glaring example is the Pon Farr people discuss it casually (and you'd think that with so many Vulcans on Earth they'd keep records about it) yet eighty years later on the Enterprise they've forgotten everything about it including that it exists!!!
From the boarding party they sent over which was broadcasting back to the bird of prey which was recording the whole incident.Except where did the Klingons get the visuals from inside the Enterprise, showing them entering the bridge?
No. Because you see them from inside the bridge as they enter it. Did Torg send on Klingon running ahead with a camera and a satellite link?
And who's photographing the V'ger cloud after Epsilon Nine gets toasted?
Except where did the Klingons get the visuals from inside the Enterprise, showing them entering the bridge?
The Enterprise would have automatically ejected its log buoy upon destruction, which would have been recording up to the last second.
That one's easy enough to imagine and fill in the gaps.And who's photographing the V'ger cloud after Epsilon Nine gets toasted?
We know there are Federation sensor drones spying on the Klingons, because that's how Epsilon IX finds out about the Klingon attack. It's more or less implied that the "exterior visual" of V'ger destroying the Klingon ships comes from such a drone. Perhaps a similar nearby sensor drone monitors the destruction of Epsilon IX, and the rec room feed automatically switches over to what's coming from it when Kirk orders "external view."
How about the external shot of the Enterprise as it explodes. Who recorded that and then made a montage with the other recordings?
Already stated above. That was part of the Klingon ambassadors evidence presentation so obviously the destruction of the Enterprise was recorded by the bird of prey in orbit. How would the Klingons get access to that data after Kirk and Co. took it over? Hey it's the Federation. They hang their officers out to dry for political purposes all the time.
Kirk commandeered the bird of prey. It doesn't seem likely that he would have sent footage of the Ent exploding from that ship.
Here's the Rube Goldberg explanation that I came up with when I first saw Star Trek IV in the movie theater.
The Klingon ToP picked up not only the Enterprise blowing up but also was picking up its internal sensors before hand and was relaying it to some other Klingon asset in real time up until Kirk or whoever shut it off.
I know, still baloney.
Robert
The Klingon ToP picked up not only the Enterprise blowing up but also was picking up its internal sensors before hand and was relaying it to some other Klingon asset in real time up until Kirk or whoever shut it off.
I know, still baloney.
Robert
My parents teased me about how Flint's invisible, mobile spy camera was able to do Dramatic Closeups™ of Kirk and Rayna automagically.
It's funny but no matter how many times I watch the series I can't remember the first time we see Spock use the neck pinch thing... Was it in "The enemy within"? I am not sure.
One has to wonder what three centuries of progress will do to technologies like LIDAR, photogrammetry and 3-D ray-tracing. There are already efforts to combine the first two to produce accurate 3d models of existing objects without the need to manually create them using CAD software. Who knows what the future holds?
The use of Enterprise internal view camera footage in the Klingon Ambassador's presentation to the Federation Council in TVH could have been explained simply by the retrieval of the Enterprise's disaster recorder.
Kirk likely would have turned over any records in his possession of the incident at the Genesis Planet over to the Federation when he transferred custody of his Klingon prisoner to them, including Klingon sensor logs, as records of the Klingons' crimes. If Kirk had ordered the retrieval of the Enterprise's log buoy before they headed to Vulcan, he would have given them either it or at least all recoverable data from it, too. Or, perhaps the log buoy was recovered by Federation ships exploring the remains of Genesis.
In any case, there was evidently another Klingon spy at work, or others, because Kirk's Genesis presentation that Kruge had stolen and never shared with anyone after he got it was also presented by the Klingon Ambassador. So, the presence in that presentation of any records in Federation possession, including an external view of the Enterprise's destruction, was not inconsistent.
The use of the precise vantage points of the dramatic footage in TSFS... eh... not so much.
Kirk likely would have turned over any records in his possession of the incident at the Genesis Planet over to the Federation when he transferred custody of his Klingon prisoner to them, including Klingon sensor logs, as records of the Klingons' crimes. If Kirk had ordered the retrieval of the Enterprise's log buoy before they headed to Vulcan, he would have given them either it or at least all recoverable data from it, too. Or, perhaps the log buoy was recovered by Federation ships exploring the remains of Genesis.
In any case, there was evidently another Klingon spy at work, or others, because Kirk's Genesis presentation that Kruge had stolen and never shared with anyone after he got it was also presented by the Klingon Ambassador. So, the presence in that presentation of any records in Federation possession, including an external view of the Enterprise's destruction, was not inconsistent.
The use of the precise vantage points of the dramatic footage in TSFS... eh... not so much.
By the way, as per the communication relayed by Uhura, the real Mendez and Starbase 11 also receive images from Talos IV.
