Hey, I never noticed that before....

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  1. johnnybear

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    I tried to read TMP years and years back but couldn't get through the first two chapters! Maybe it's time I gave it another go!
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  2. ZapBrannigan

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    The close-up was stock footage of Jimmy Doohan, shot on the set of "The Enemy Within" on June 15, 1966. The clapboard is even marked "STOCK FX." They used that bit of film quite a few times.
     
  3. johnnybear

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    Jay Jones appeared as an engineering ensign in the episode too as I recall! He was also one of the security guards in And The Children Shall Lead in season three!
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  4. FormerLurker

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    It's more likely stock footage of James Doohan's hand double. Remember, they were attempting to avoid revealing "Scotty of the Nine Fingers" at that point. Trouble With Tribbles is one of the few times they couldn't cover it up, but they would do whatever they needed to in any other situation.
     
  5. ZapBrannigan

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    I can see why you might suppose that, but it really was Jimmy's hands in the stock footage close-up. You can count the fingers on his right hand :bolian::
    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x05hd/theenemywithinhd050.jpg


    Also, I'm looking at the clapboard frame that shows it's him. So yeah. :whistle:
     
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  6. FormerLurker

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    Interesting.

    But the way he's holding said hand makes the attempt to hide the missing digit kind of obvious, to those of us who know what we're looking for. At least he isn't clumsily holding a communicator.

    And also interesting that they had him do the insert himself, instead of having someone else do it anyway. He really was dayplayer in the beginning.
     
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    I don't know why Scotty didn't do the beaming himself anyway in Tholian Web..
    Normally in such critical situations Scotty does the beaming or sometimes even Spock especially when Kirk's life is on the line.
    So if they're reusing the red sleeve footage I'll look out for it in other episodes.
     
  8. Samuel

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    Wasn't Scotty still in engineering babysitting the still underpowered engines?
     
  9. johnnybear

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    I think there's also a scene in the episode where Doohan has got his darker greased hair just for a moment rather than his grey top! A scene taken from another earlier episode I guess but I wonder why they mixed up the season three Scotty hair episodes and the second season Chekov shows too on first broadcast? Didn't they think anyone would notice?
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    This is a Star Trek tradition dating back to September 8, 1966:
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    Stock shots and library cues. They had a show to run and budgets to meet!

    (This shot was from “The Naked Time”, but seen first in “The Man Trap”.)
     
  11. ZapBrannigan

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    Try watching T.J. Hooker. During the later seasons, they start re-using whole car chases from prior episodes. And they re-use spectacular (expensive) crashes and explosions. The set-up always involves using a matching car for the new story, and that car doubles for the old one that's going get into a chase and maybe fly off a parking ramp or burst into flames. :bolian:
     
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    This has probably been mentioned before but "Is There in Truth No Beauty" there is a shot of the viewscreen when they are re-entering the galaxy where you see the backs of two goldshirts manning helm and navigation but during that manoeuvre Spock was manning navigation I think.
     
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    I've been watching T.J. Hooker for the first time recently. This practice actually starts in the first season - there are a ton of stock shots that show up whenever there's a car chase or driving scene of some kind. I haven't seen any stock explosions yet, but I imagine they really start to pinch pennies in the fifth season, when the show's budget was slashed.
     
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    I believe there is an episode of Starsky and Hutch like that where they lifted an entire chase scene from an earlier episode even down to the same villain they were chasing!
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    The Incredible Hulk based entire episodes around using stock footage from bigger-budget Universal movies...e.g., "Never Give a Trucker an Even Break" was based on using truck chase footage from Duel.
     
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  17. Harvey

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    Didn’t MacGuyver have an episode that used a significant amount of footage from Duel, too? I also recall an episode that made liberal use of footage from The Italian Job, too.
     
  18. scotpens

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    Well, if they didn't think anyone would notice this difference . . .

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    MacGyver also did an episode that used a lot of footage from The Naked Jungle (1954) starring Charlton Heston. Of course, the ants had all the best lines. :)
     
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    Did MacGyver have any original footage?
     
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    A first season episode of The A-Team, "The Beast From the Belly of a Boeing," dealt with a hijacked airplane and reused the climatic shot from the 1980 comedy Airplane! of a plane dramatically crashing through the window of the airport. Unfortunately, the A-Team editors failed to notice that one of the extras in that shot was literally throwing away a baby as the plane crashed through the window. :guffaw:Pretty much every shot of an airplane in flight on that show was stock footage, I think.

    A later fifth season episode of The A-Team reused almost the entire opening scene from the first season episode "Holiday in the Hills," with a few additional inserts of new character Frankie Santana edited in.