Hey, I never noticed that before....

[CorporalCaptain]

Here's where I have to ask - what would the difference be?
Whether Korby's essence is indeed transferred (whatever that means) to the android body or just receives an exact copy of memories, he would still think he was the original - and with the original organic Korby deceased there would be no-one around to question the validity of the process

The difference would be not behaving as Korby would. That was a point that the episode made. The whole idea of creating a race of android duplicates covertly "infiltrated into society" as he put it was one that the real Korby never would have promoted in the first place. Ergo, the consciousness in the android was not an exact copy of Korby's, probably for multiple reasons.

Chapel was there to referee that he wasn't the real Korby, as she did.

 

[Harvey]

And there was a scene involving Kirk attempting to ride through the barrier on horseback, I believe, that was either cut or never filmed. Someone with more knowledge can confirm...

Per the daily production report and shooting script, it was cut from the script before production and was never filmed. (Cushman reports otherwise in his book...wrong again).

 

[johnnybear]

So the device that transported Korby's mind into the android body either malfunctioned or it only took the logical thought processes! Is that what you mean, Cosmic Consciousness?
JB

 

[Maurice]

[...](Cushman reports otherwise in his book...wrong again).

Imagine my surprise...

 

[Timo]

Chapel was there to referee that he wasn't the real Korby, as she did.

I don't really believe she'd know squat, though. The two didn't appear to spend any time together; she was just donning a rose-colored space helmet in order to go after a dream.

Korby didn't appear to spend time together with anybody much, for that matter. I could easily see him coming to believe that mankind was, if not a bug to be squashed, then at least an ailment to be cured. What else could he deduce from his studies of all these advanced nonhuman cultures?

I think I like JohnnyBear's take here, however. The machine might not have as much "malfunctioned" as "improved": it would have an agenda built in, and this inhuman agenda, inherited from either the Ancients or their servants, would fit into Korby's transferred mind like a lab coat on a mad scientist.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[J.T.B.]

(Cushman reports otherwise in his book...wrong again).

WHAT?!

 

[MAGolding]

"Shore Leave"

• horse Black Knight rides on
• tiger

As I remember from The Making of Star Trek they rented an elephant but never got to use it in the episode.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

As I remember from The Making of Star Trek they rented an elephant but never got to use it in the episode.

haha at "you can rent elephants"

 

[Nerys Myk]

haha at "you can rent elephants"

It's Hollywood, of course you can.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

So the device that transported Korby's mind into the android body either malfunctioned or it only took the logical thought processes! Is that what you mean, Cosmic Consciousness?
JB

Not necessarily either option exactly.

The machine is clearly able to transfer some, or in some sense perhaps even most, of a person's mind. But the idea would be that there are some aspects of consciousness that the machine is unable to transfer. The reasons for that inability could be any combination of several factors, such as:

- Perhaps some aspects of consciousness were beyond the capability of the machine to transfer, perhaps because they were simply beyond the comprehension of the old ones/the designers. That wouldn't necessarily mean that the aspects of consciousness that the machine is unable to cope with are illogical. Perhaps they are logical, but that logic cannot be codified in a finite way, or in a way that the designers knew and understood to the fullest extent, or in a way that would by their understanding lend those aspects to be transferred via machine in their entirety.

- Perhaps neither Ruk nor any of the other androids present knew how to operate the machine correctly; perhaps Ruk knew at one point but had forgotten. Perhaps some of the calibrated settings had drifted over time, and the androids did not understand that they needed to compensate for the changes. If you want to characterize that last possibility as a malfunction, you could, but it would be one that could be corrected for without actually rebuilding any hardware, but rather via re-initialization/re-calibration.

- Perhaps the machine worked better on the people of Exo III than on humans.

 

[FormerLurker]

haha at "you can rent elephants"

"Ah, yes, popcorn in your hand, children cheering at your side, and in its trunk, held high, fluttering in the breeze...the flag of the Federation. Station!"

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

"Ah, yes, popcorn in your hand, children cheering at your side, and in its trunk, held high, fluttering in the breeze...the flag of the Federation. Station!"

Do you want to know more?

Oops wrong Federation

 

[JonnyQuest037]

There was at least one horse briefly seen in "Spectre of the Gun." But being that it was the third season and the budget had been slashed, keeping the animal work down to a minimum was an easy place where they could keep the budget down.

I wonder if they ever considered using coconuts instead.

And there was a scene involving Kirk attempting to ride through the barrier on horseback, I believe, that was either cut or never filmed. Someone with more knowledge can confirm...

Walter Koenig states in Allen Asherman's The Star Trek Interview Book that he and the other stars of "Spectre of the Gun" were doing a photo shoot on horseback for a fan magazine when they found out that Star Trek's time slot was being switched to Fridays at 10 for the third season. (It's on pages 79-80 in my edition.)

 

[Timo]

I wonder if they ever considered using coconuts instead.

But did they have the budget for two trained African swallows?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Ssosmcin]

Too many pages to check if it's been mentioned, but it took me decades to notice that the top of the transporter console was actually black in The Corbomite Maneuver. In Mudd's Women, it's the usual red.

 

[Noname Given]

Too many pages to check if it's been mentioned, but it took me decades to notice that the top of the transporter console was actually black in The Corbomite Maneuver. In Mudd's Women, it's the usual red.

Well for a time - it WAS doing double duty as the Helm/Navigation console as well as the Transporter console.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Well for a time - it WAS doing double duty as the Helm/Navigation console as well as the Transporter console.

Not the actual “series version” transporter console. That was new in TCM and was black for that one episode only

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Not the actual “series version” transporter console. That was new in TCM and was black for that one episode only

I never noticed it either, good catch. They repainted it after Corbomite.
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x10/corbomitemanuever325.jpg

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

haha at "you can rent elephants"

Desilu did it once before....

 

[Maurice]

Desilu did it once before....

Image link broken. I don't think we can hotlink pix from Pinterest.