Re: HEROES 3x01 "Second Coming" and 3x02 "Butterfly Effect" Discuss/Gr
Never watched Five Years Gone?!?
Sure I did, but that future timeline is gone. I know that Nathan implicated Sylar in the explosion in order to protect Peter. However, I was uncertain exactly when Sylar had killed and replaced Nathan. I'm presuming Sylar didn't blame himself publicly or he wouldn't have been so pissed off at Peter. I was under the impression that the persecution of the other mutants had been entirely Sylar's doing. I could have been wrong, of course. This timeline, though, Nathan was the whistleblower, so what could he have done that was so awful?
Just telling the world about the mutants could have gone horribly wrong. Peter is a pigheaded and emotionally unstable person and under enough pressure, his love for his brother could turn to rage. And even tho the 5YG timeline is gone, I'm assuming that there will still be a lot of parallel developments in all the timelines we've seen and no doubt are going to see - anything that's driven by one of the characters' personality traits is likely to follow a parallel path. Even under two different scenarios, Peter is the same sort of person, someone who can go bad very easily due to his damning combination of self-pity and stupidity.
Maybe he did talk to Nathan. Future-Nathan. Nathan has a tendency to go from neutral to nice to neutral to evil to redemed good.
That's a very good point. Like Peter, Nathan has a damning tendency of his own - to be morally flexible and insensitive to those around him when focused on a goal. Right now, he's playing Saint Nathan, but wow he was a jerk in S1, and jerk-ness like that doesn't just vanish as a personality trait.
If stuff hits the fan, people will retreat under pressure to their core personalities. Nathan is a pragmatist who will do whatever works, regardless of who gets steamrollered. Peter is emotionally fragile and hypersensitive, who is unlikely to take being steamrollered very well. I can imagine situations that would send them on a collision course. It could take years to get that bad, but the Future Peter seems to be several years older so I'm assuming that's the case.
The key here is that Future Peter went through a lot of stuff we didn't see, maybe will never see. We just have to judge whether the outcome we saw was plausible under some sort of scenario and I think it is. Maybe some horrific event just before his journey to the past was the propelling factor sending him after Nathan in a rage - acting impulsively without thinking, perfectly in character for him. Once he'd calmed down and realized this Nathan wasn't going to blab, he was no longer homocidal towards Nathan.
Which raises an intriguing possibility: will Sylar realize that he doesn't have to chase any mutant besides Peter? Just follow his little brother around and open his skull periodically
Actually he just has to open him up once to see how Peter gains the powers and take the power taking power.
Ah right, and that reminds me of a plotline I wondered about in S1. Why doesn't Sylar just try to make a deal with Peter, to get his powers and therefore never have a motive to kill. If Sylar doesn't have a reason to kill, would he still be "evil"? He's not going to start knocking over liquor stores - with the ability to get all the powers he wants in a peaceful manner, he should be content.
Of course in 5YG, his ultimate goal became to "kill off the competition," but Peter couldn't know that. And Peter could even survive. I'd like to see Sylar at least try that line of argument.
Peter has the no killing required power but is it worth getting his ass kicked just to get that power?
That's why Sylar should try persuasion and simple logic. Then again, I just ranted at length about how completely irrational Peter is. Once he finds out what Sylar did to Claire, he'll go completely ballistic.