Spoilers Godzilla vs. Kong release thread

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  1. Skipper

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    And the daughters' opinion on the movie? :)
     
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    As I was watching this I was thinking that less human characters might be interesting. It's been mentioned that you could drop Millie and Co. out of the movie (that Dad scene out of nowhere :rolleyes:) but I'm thinking Kong in hollow earth would've been more wondrous and magical if it had just been him exploring gravity, finding the axe and so on without all of the narration and cartoon vehicles and letting us the viewers discover it through him and to put the pieces together. It seemed like "Eric from True Blood", whatever his name is in this, just sapped the scenes of any of that being Captain Obvious.

    I wonder how much could actually be dropped and communicated without words. Like I think they even could've done MechaG with the guy connecting in Ghidorah's skull just shown visually. I think that could've been an intriguing approach.

    I kind of liked the mystical deaf girl and Kong just because it seems like there's always something like that in kaiju movies. I did smile at Kong's sticking the axe down Godzilla's throat in what I assume was an homage to their original showdown. And when will these jets ever learn to shoot from a distance where they won't be grabbed. :)
     
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    They enjoyed it; I think they'd have liked more of MBB and so, for that reason, I think they preferred KOTM
     
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    You just know it's exactly the sort of film he's bound to hate...
     
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    In all not bad, liked the kong/zilla fights and enjoyed the deaf kid scenes. And yes Millie could have been cut out completely.. Great big shoehorn .. Though did like seeing the kid from deadpool2.
    Liked king of monsters better.. In Godzilla films, but liked this better than skull island. Pretty much a kong movie with a rampaging Godzilla for a few minutes..

    As for evacuating a big city.. Not a chance. Maybe if you had a week. If I was in a big city and something was going to happen shortly, id grab a lawn chair and enjoy the show til I get stepped on..
     
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    I've seen a couple people call Pacific Rim the best American Kaiju movie and I definitely agree. Love that movie.
     
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    Pacific Rim the best Mecha Godzilla movie? Id agree.
    Best regular godzilla? Have to say no on that one.
     
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    JD said "Kaiju movie," not "Godzilla movie."
     
  12. Mr. Adventure

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    I know everyone probably groans at people posting youtube videos but I thought this movie really earned this razzing. This movie and "Pitch Meeting" were made for each other.
     
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    Even though I really enjoyed the movie, that was hilarious.
     
  14. TedShatner10

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    I thought the movie was fine but not as good as Kong: Skull Island, though we get a proper answer why and how Skull Island can support gigantic prehistoric creatures from different time periods, despite being a relatively small land mass.

    Also Kong showing a sensitive, loving side is just people in general being less ignorant about gorillas. They can be very likeable:

     
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    Anyway, my personal canon is that In-Universe they just decided to not even try to warn Hong Kong people, because they perfectly know that it would have been perfectly useless. Worst case scenario, an unorganized evacuation could have done more deaths than Godzilla itself. But it was a very dark plot point and they simply decided to not show it on the screen.
     
  16. Timby

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    There were lots of little touches, like Godzilla laughing at Kong, that absolutely tickled me throughout the movie. Really, both Kong and Godzilla had a lot of character, which very pleasantly surprised me.

    Godzilla breathing a hole down to the Hollow Earth just so he could scream FUCK YOU at Kong had me giggling like a fool.

    Another huge point in this movie's favor: It was less than two hours long. So, so refreshing to have a blockbuster that didn't feel the need to be three-plus hours in length.

    I think I enjoyed the monster fights in King of the Monsters just a little bit more, though admittedly that's probably because I'm the biggest fanboy of King Ghidorah on the planet, but all in all, this scratched my itches in all the right places, and if this is truly the end of the MonsterVerse, as has been indicated, then the series is going out on a pretty high note. It's not perfect--I thought MechaGodzilla's design was pretty uninspired, and I was surprisingly disappointed with Junkie XL's score, which felt phoned-in, for lack of better phrasing, and especially so in light of how phenomenal Bear McCreary's work on King of the Monsters was--but there are far worse ways to spend a Saturday night than watching Giant Monke and Radioactive Dino punch the everloving fucknuts out of one another. I mean, sure, the human characters were generally morons and added very little to the movie ... but at this point, when it comes to giant monster movies, that's a feature, not a bug, going all the way back to Godzilla Raids Again, so I'm not really going to ding GvK too harshly in that respect (and, thankfully, Wolf Dad was mostly sidelined, which addresses one of the larger issues I have with KotM).

    Considering that this movie would have been canceled if it hadn't already been filmed at the time that King of the Monsters was released and ate shit at the box office, I'm very glad we got this movie to close out the MonsterVerse. Long live the King.

    I'll bite, despite all my instincts telling me otherwise ... who's the most pretentious director of all time?
     
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    Wes Anderson?
     
  18. captainkirk

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    I had Snyder in mind when I wrote that.
     
  19. Timby

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    Oh, for fuck's sake. :rolleyes: It's a thread about an ape and a lizard fighting and you feel the need to drag Zack Snyder into it ... why? I swear to God, the way some people let him live rent-free in their minds because he made some polarizing cape movies is both hilarious and mildly disturbing.

    Edit: And, really, "pretentious" is probably the last adjective I'd ever use to describe Snyder. If anything, he's refreshingly earnest and wears his enthusiasm on his sleeve. We live in a world in which Lars Von Trier, Terence Malick, Darren Aronofsky, Quentin Tarantino, Harmony Korine, Terry Gilliam, Tarsem Singh, Richard Kelly and Nicolas Winding Refn are all making movies, and that's not even digging into directors from past eras who turned having their head up their ass into an art form, like Woody Allen, Federico Fellini and Michael Cimino, to say Snyder isn't just pretentious but the "most pretentious director of all time" demonstrates a rather striking lack of perspective.
     
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    While, while I think that "pretentiousness" is quite subjective I think there a lot, quite lot, more pretentious directors out there. Unless one for "directors" means only "directors of blockbuster movies which make hundreds of millions of dollars and everybody know, even people who watch only one movie a year". In this case it's a quite little subset. ;)