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Game over: the doublefist

Tsunkatsae exists solely because WWF was on the same network as Voyager and they were desperate enough for ratings by that point to try to make wrestling fans like Star Trek.
 
So needlessly complicated! But I would totally try that in a backyard brawl. I wish there were crossovers between Trek and the WWF, but the Rock did kinda bridge that gap in VOY.
Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg, Borg. "Bro"-hater.
 
Moesha, Voyager, and WWF were all they had going for them at the time. I can see UPN asking for a "crossover". But, at the same time, I get a kick out of the episode anyway.

How can you not like this? Don't answer that... :p

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I don't care what anyone says. This is awesome. :devil:
 
Moesha, Voyager, and WWF were all they had going for them at the time. I can see UPN asking for a "crossover". But, at the same time, I get a kick out of the episode anyway.

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I don't care what anyone says. This is awesome. :devil:

It is indeed
 
Moesha, Voyager, and WWF were all they had going for them at the time. I can see UPN asking for a "crossover". But, at the same time, I get a kick out of the episode anyway.

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I don't care what anyone says. This is awesome. :devil:

Dwayne played a verbose computer programmer on The Net, and what seemed like his own father who was also a wrestler on That 70s Show... So the problem here is that the Voyager writers made unfaithful assumptions about the Rock, becuase Wrestling in dumb for dumbies, that if he was given more than one line in the script, that it would take the Rock 3 weeks to get it right, and redline the episode.

Untapped.
 
Moesha, Voyager, and WWF were all they had going for them at the time. I can see UPN asking for a "crossover". But, at the same time, I get a kick out of the episode anyway.

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Then I'm somewhat surprised they didn't bring Moesha in as a guest star, too, either as a wrestler or as another Borg. :alienblush:
 
UPN should have more Voyager previews like this. Most of the trailers were just awful
 
With the Rock Bottom, if I recall correctly. It was just the right side of utterly bonkers, IMHO. And launched the Rock's incredibly successful acting career.
 
Maybe the knifehand strike is not an effective attack on humans, but makes a noticeable dent in Andorians, Klingons, Orions, et cetera, so they pushed its use in the 2250s and '60s as part of the optimal hand-to-hand fighting strategy to effect the most humanoid beings.

They revised the style by Picard's era.
It's an effective strike, in context. The knife hand strike was recommended by a lot of martial arts teachers who came out of a WWII combatives background, and these were some of the last people to actually use martial arts in a martial sense.

The knife-hand strike is recommended over and over in books like Kill or Get Killed, Applegate's (an OSS commando trainer) manual done for the USMC. It comes up in Defundu by Fairbairn and Sykes, also involved in OSS, and the former in Shanghai police prior to the war. Bruce Tegner, a very well trained educated martial artist (the most influential fight instructor in Hollywood at the time.. I mention him in another post, regarding Shatner's high flying "Basque kick" awhile back on a different thread) advocated it. Charles Nelson (of the Red and Gray Manuals) was another WW2 commando that recommended it, though generally Nelson preferred joint locks, especially as he got older. Those names are all pretty much forgotten except by a few. Martial arts is subject to the same trends in practice that affect any endeavor.

The reason they advocated them was not for board breaking or yelling HAAAI YA like Miss Piggy but because it was a quick and dirty way to get people to fight bare handed effectively. They didn't have time to teach people how to punch, footwork, not telegraphing said punches, etc. If you don't know how to punch you will throw an ineffective punch, or worse, break your wrist. An ax-hand strike could be tossed in with eye gouging, head butting, heel-palm strikes etc into at least something you could give your pupils. The point stressed in those books was always to get a weapon. A bayonet, k-bar, chair, a rock, the butt of your rifle, anything before you had to be bare handed. They recommended kicking, over punching, as well, especially if the target was already on the ground.

The double-ax hand thing as others have said, just appears to be some pro wrestling move popular at the time.
 
It's an effective strike, in context. The knife hand strike was recommended by a lot of martial arts teachers who came out of a WWII combatives background, and these were some of the last people to actually use martial arts in a martial sense.

The knife-hand strike is recommended over and over in books like Kill or Get Killed, Applegate's (an OSS commando trainer) manual done for the USMC. It comes up in Defundu by Fairbairn and Sykes, also involved in OSS, and the former in Shanghai police prior to the war. Bruce Tegner, a very well trained educated martial artist (the most influential fight instructor in Hollywood at the time.. I mention him in another post, regarding Shatner's high flying "Basque kick" awhile back on a different thread) advocated it. Charles Nelson (of the Red and Gray Manuals) was another WW2 commando that recommended it, though generally Nelson preferred joint locks, especially as he got older. Those names are all pretty much forgotten except by a few. Martial arts is subject to the same trends in practice that affect any endeavor.

The reason they advocated them was not for board breaking or yelling HAAAI YA like Miss Piggy but because it was a quick and dirty way to get people to fight bare handed effectively. They didn't have time to teach people how to punch, footwork, not telegraphing said punches, etc. If you don't know how to punch you will throw an ineffective punch, or worse, break your wrist. An ax-hand strike could be tossed in with eye gouging, head butting, heel-palm strikes etc into at least something you could give your pupils. The point stressed in those books was always to get a weapon. A bayonet, k-bar, chair, a rock, the butt of your rifle, anything before you had to be bare handed. They recommended kicking, over punching, as well, especially if the target was already on the ground.

The double-ax hand thing as others have said, just appears to be some pro wrestling move popular at the time.
Then I guess the question should be why has the knife-hand fallen out of favor if it's so effective and also so simple? (Sorry, I still can't block out the sound & image of Miss Piggy's "haaayaaa!")
 
Well they don't teach any knife hand chops in army combatives nowadays. It must be a Marine Corp thing.
 
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