Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7

[Reverend]

And Daenery needs to fly over to the north and have a look for herself to see what is going off.

My prediction is that the season will end with the White Walkers breaching the wall somehow and Castle Black falling. Whether or not Danny will be in a position to do anything about it or not remains to be seen. This show love to take 90 degree turns when you least expect it, so I doubt the circumstances of the coming battles with be predictable.

But who can command them? They only listen to Dany and it's not like she took some person and said to the Dragons "Listen to them until i return" At best they would naturally fight against anything that attacked Dragonstone but one can't be sure.

Tyrion had a line last season where he said some Maesters believe dragons are at least intelligent as humans, if not more. Doesn't mean they *think* like humans but they do appear to be able to recognise people and know who and/or what they're supposed to be breathing fire on when Danny yells "dracarys". I mean people sure, that's easy. The move and smell like uncooked lunch; but ships and wagons? A dumb animal wouldn't be smart enough to distinguish them from rocks and trees. So they should be smart enough to guard their territory.

What surprised me is that she has so much combat skill.. Syrio's training was incomplete and she received further training with the Faceless Men but their main mode of operations is infiltration and stealth so it came a bit surprising when Arya went all Captain America on Brienne.

Remember that she did get a lot of single combat training and even learned to fight blind, which is how she defeated the waif. Also, she spent a lot of time cleaning dead bodies. That's a good way to get a very intimate knowledge of human anatomy. What the soft spots are, where the muscles and ligaments are vulnerable, how far a joint can pivot. All very useful when seeking to disarm or disable an opponent.

Also consider she's had more than just two teachers over the years. Syrio taught her to move, Yoren taught her to fight smart and use her emotions, The Hound taught her to fight dirty and pick you opponents, the Faceless Men taught her to use her senses and of course Jon Snow taught her to stick 'um with the pointy end.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

This excellent behind-the-scenes extra shows the extensive work that took place in creating the battle sequence.

My biggest takeaway: They actually set 20 people on fire at once (which is a record apparently)!

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I was struck, and actually kind of sad, to see Bran blow of Mira like he did. She and her brother were thoroughly loyal to him, would have given their life for him (Jojan actually did), and Bran casts her off like yesterday's newspaper. That seemed a little harsh, even for Bran, and it was clear that Mira was starting to develop feelings for him - now that he's grown older the age variance doesn't seem as pronounced. Very sad to see her go under those circumstances. Just doesn't seem right.

Yeah, I was saddened by how coldly her cast Meera aside. I'm not surprised considering his current state of scattered mind, but saddened nonetheless. And I agree that she was beginning to develop feelings for him.

 

[FPAlpha]

Also, she spent a lot of time cleaning dead bodies. That's a good way to get a very intimate knowledge of human anatomy. What the soft spots are, where the muscles and ligaments are vulnerable, how far a joint can pivot. All very useful when seeking to disarm or disable an opponent.

Also consider she's had more than just two teachers over the years. Syrio taught her to move, Yoren taught her to fight smart and use her emotions, The Hound taught her to fight dirty and pick you opponents, the Faceless Men taught her to use her senses and of course Jon Snow taught her to stick 'um with the pointy end.

I wouldn't assume a physician would be useful in single combat just because he knows the human body inside out It just came a bit as a surprise that she is so superior now to a hugely experienced and powerful fighter like Brienne.. she basically dominated her while being half her weight and unarmored (which may have aided her given her water dancing fight style) - somethimg not even Jaime Lannister could do while he still had both his hands and he is regarded as one of the premier fighters still around. While she was training she always got her ass handed to her (most of the time) and she only defeated the Waif because she outsmarted her.

It was awesome to see her fight/train with Brienne and now i want to see her assault King's Landing and slice through The Mountain on her way to Cersei's chamber!

Yeah, I was saddened by how coldly her cast Meera aside. I'm not surprised considering his current state of scattered mind, but saddened nonetheless. And I agree that she was beginning to develop feelings for him.

Yeah.. that scene was brutal as well as the episode before when he casually talks about her wedding day with Ramsay and how beautiful she looked.. he just doesn't care or realize what a monster he was and what happened later (even though he might have seen it).

Bran has removed himself from human emotion to fulfill a higher purpose and this is a very sad story and path for him. He started out so innocently just like all the Stark kids but his story seems to become the worst, he's leaving his humanity behind to be able to fight a bigger threat.

 

[dahj]

They went out of their way to establish that Jon is a bastard because his parents weren't married.
So how long do you reckon before Sam finds a marriage certificate for Rhaegar and Lyanna at the Citadel?

 

[FPAlpha]

They went out of their way to establish that Jon is a bastard because his parents weren't married.
So how long do you reckon before Sam finds a marriage certificate for Rhaegar and Lyanna at the Citadel?

That's what i've been wondering for ages when i learned about this connection.. how can anyone else know? All those who know the secret are dead.. Lyanna, Rhaegar, Ned (who i'm pretty sure never told anyone), were there others with any kind of importance present?

How can this come to light apart from Bran and what does he have to gain from it apart from just blurting it out absent mindedly once Dany and Jon make the trip to the North and reunite with everybody to fight the White Walkers.. "Oh btw.. you are his aunt" *rolls off in his wheelchair*

 

[dahj]

were there others with any kind of importance present?

Howland Reed, Meera's father, was at the Tower of Joy as well.

 

[Thestral]

There is Howland Reed potentially? He survived the Tower of Joy.

Or maybe I'm grasping at straws because I'm also very very sad at how Bran dismissed Meera so coldly and I want to see her back. Those two having more time in relative safety was something I was really looking forward to this season.

 

[FPAlpha]

There is Howland Reed potentially? He survived the Tower of Joy.

Or maybe I'm grasping at straws because I'm also very very sad at how Bran dismissed Meera so coldly and I want to see her back. Those two having more time in relative safety was something I was really looking forward to this season.

Ned quickly ends Dayne's suffering with a slash to the neck, nearly lopping his head off. Howland is badly injured but survives, rushing to check the bodies of the fallen, while Ned continues on into the tower

I found this in a GoT Wiki and i'm no book expert but doesn't this mean he may have been present but not actually in the room when Lyanna told Ned the secret. Once Ned stepped out with baby Jon he might have started to put two and two together (either as a theory of Rhaegar raping Lyanna or there being an actual love relationship). However we haven't seen anything about Reed in the show so my money is on Bran spilling the beans if they are spilled at all (or be real cruel to the viewers and have Jon and Dany go at it and make all the viewers go "Eeeeewwwww... " )

 

[137th Gebirg]

They would very much be in keeping with centuries of Targaryen tradition.

 

[Mr Awe]

All this said, it's one thing the books covered that the series kinda glossed over. All this late fall/early winter war fighting has basically screwed over everyone. Should have been harvesting and storing, instead everything was destroyed and supplies were used up. Not going to be much left for the eventual 'winner', but the plus side is that there will be a lot fewer mouths to feed...

I've been thinking about this aspect and I suspect it's going to play a growing role in the TV series. I suspect that Cersei and Dany will end up in more of a stalemate where neither have the advantage and yet the skirmishes damage people, property, crops, supplies, etc all in the face of the winter. The people are going see that all of these Lords/Ladies squabbling is ruining things for everyone else. You have to think the the Brotherhood without Banners is going to benefit from this situation. They're going to receive a lot of support as nobility is seen as the problem.

We might be witnessing the end of feudalism in Westeros. I can also see scenarios where it is the Brotherhood who unites the various forces against the White Walkers.

Hate to predict with Game of Thrones but it seems to be heading in that direction.

 

[Reverend]

While she was training she always got her ass handed to her (most of the time) and she only defeated the Waif because she outsmarted her.

Yes and no. Yes she outsmarted the waif by manoeuvring her into the dark, no it wasn't just about outsmarting her since it also required Arya to be able to fight blind. It was cunning *and* skill.
Also remember that by the end of those sparring sessions, Arya had clearly learned and was getting the better of the Waif. Getting knocked on your arse is after all how you learn.

Bran has removed himself from human emotion to fulfill a higher purpose and this is a very sad story and path for him. He started out so innocently just like all the Stark kids but his story seems to become the worst, he's leaving his humanity behind to be able to fight a bigger threat.

Or maybe I'm grasping at straws because I'm also very very sad at how Bran dismissed Meera so coldly and I want to see her back. Those two having more time in relative safety was something I was really looking forward to this season.

Here's the thing: he didn't dismiss her exactly. He was just dispassionate about her leaving to return to her family, just as he was dispassionate about Sansa's wedding night and Arya's list.
I also don't think he's detaching himself from humanity exactly; as Meera said, in a very real sense Bran never made it out of that cave. The person who was Bran has been subsumed by the Three-Eyed-Raven. Maybe in time he'll come back to the surface, but for now I think his near omnipotent vision means it's all too much for him to focus on the little things.

In terms of his perspective, I think he's pretty much in the same boat as Dr. Manhattan. He tries to be polite, but people are too small for him to really grip the nuances and too trivial for him to care.

It still sucks for Meera of course.

How can this come to light apart from Bran and what does he have to gain from it apart from just blurting it out absent mindedly once Dany and Jon make the trip to the North and reunite with everybody to fight the White Walkers.. "Oh btw.. you are his aunt" *rolls off in his wheelchair*

Actually, I'm envisioning something very much like this. Though more like "you're not my brother, you're my cousin."
As for how he could convince Danny & Jon of this (assuming he'd want to), we saw the old TER give others visions and there's already an implied connection to Danny since he shared her vision of a ruined Red Keep, covered in snow. So that's a possibility.

 

[Captain Shaw]

This excellent behind-the-scenes extra shows the extensive work that took place in creating the battle sequence.

My biggest takeaway: They actually set 20 people on fire at once (which is a record apparently)!

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Yeah, I was saddened by how coldly her cast Meera aside. I'm not surprised considering his current state of scattered mind, but saddened nonetheless. And I agree that she was beginning to develop feelings for him.

I loved the fact they are setting people on fire but 'guys remember to stay calm'.

 

[dahj]

my money is on Bran spilling the beans if they are spilled at all

Oh it will definitely come up.

Dany's claim to the throne is based on her being the rightful heir, it will be interesting to see how she deals with finding out that's not the case, because if Rhaegar and Lyanna were married, according to law, Jon is the rightful heir.

 

[Miss Chicken]

My prediction is that the season will end with the White Walkers breaching the wall somehow and Castle Black falling. Whether or not Danny will be in a position to do anything about it or not remains to be seen. This show love to take 90 degree turns when you least expect it, so I doubt the circumstances of the coming battles with be predictable.

If you look at the opening credits I think there is a big clue about how the White Walkers might breach the Wall.

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[dahj]

^^
A bigger clue is that the next episode is called Eastwatch

 

[Miss Chicken]

Yes, but the clue I mentioned has been there since episode one and it seems many people have not noticed.

 

[dahj]

Yes, but the clue I mentioned has been there since episode one and it seems many people have not noticed.

I had to google to what you were referring to because I didn't notice it.
I think those are just clouds though.

 

[Miss Chicken]

A still from the opening credits. I guess we will find out what it is very soon.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I hope that's not the case because I feel that's a rather lame workaround. But then the supposed way that will happen in the books is with the Horn of Joramun taking down the Wall, and considering the show has done no build up to this idea, that method would come off just as lame for non-book readers.

 

[Mr Awe]

Yes, but the clue I mentioned has been there since episode one and it seems many people have not noticed.

Can you just say what the clue is so we're not guessing. Thanks.