Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7

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  1. Garak

    Garak I'd Like to Speak to T'Bonz Premium Member

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    I read the spoilers for episode 6, couldn't help myself.

    Holy. Shit. Sounds like a barn burner of an episode.
     
  2. 137th Gebirg

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  3. The Nth Doctor

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  4. Ethros

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    Just watched it (ep 6)
    Well that had a certain moment I think everyone's been waiting to see for a very long time!


    In a non spoilery thing just from something I was thinking about the other day when watching an interview with Maisie Williams- I mean she (and thus Arya) is quite short. When she wears those masks of her dead men how does she like grow in mass and height? :D Or is that just one of things that you have to ignore in the fantasy genre, it's just magic or whatever?
     
  5. M.A.C.O.

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    I checked the spoilers and MAN, OH MAN! This episode is going to be another red hot one.
     
  6. dahj

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    Quick, let's get back to discussing the finer points of incest to distract ourselves from the spoilermagedon! :D
     
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  8. The Nth Doctor

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    Nooo! I refuse to click!

    New topic, new topic...um...

    I asked this earlier but it got lost in the mix, but what is the possiblity of Bran of being able to warg into a dragon? Is dragon magic stronger than warg magic (if that's a thing) and resist such an attempt?
     
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  9. 137th Gebirg

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    IIRC, direwolves were also considered at the very least semi-magical creatures. Their natural ability to connect and warg with many of the Stark children pushes them into that realm. IIRC, they were extremely rare, not like normal pack-wolves and never seen south of the Wall.

    Dany already shows something of an ability to communicate with her dragons at a metaphysical level. I think the "dracarys" bit is just a verbal cue coming from her that mirrors her simultaneous mental intent to use dragonfire. That intent is what the dragons feel and react to. She also doesn't use a riding harness for Drogon; she's largely silent when riding, so how does she control it? Since there seems to be no apparent verbal or physical commands, I think there is a natural semi-warging property of Targaryens that the dragons respond to without going full-on Bran warg.

    Bran, as the new Three-Eyed Crow, is probably powerful enough to bridge that gulf between human and dragon without being a Targaryen. He may be the only one of non-Targ blood that could.

    Jon has both Stark and Targ blood, and might be able to warg into both direwolves (like he did in the books) AND dragons. Dany has her two other dragonriders readily available to her and she doesn't even know it!
     
  10. Beagleman

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    Worf's pet?! :D

    All I wan't to say concerning episode 6 (drink up me hearties, yoho!), it's cold...
     
  11. Roshi

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    Goddamnit, I was spoiled by assholes who post spoilery pics on pages. Fuck dem fuckers!
     
  12. dahj

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    Till Sunday, I'm only browsing the web through Lynx :D
     
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  13. The Nth Doctor

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    Great analysis and I pretty much agree with your conclusions. I wonder if Bran dragon warging will come up on the show or at least the books with all that in mind. Daenerys would be in for one hell of a shock.

    What pages? Individuals, group or fan pages? So I know to avoid them.

    Also, fuck assholes who deliberately spoil stuff.
     
  14. Thestral

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    It's weird that the whole thing even happened though since it's looking more like it was consensual? We don't know of course how aware Lyanna was of everything, but the deciding factor behind the North, the Riverlands, and the Vale rebelling was because of the Mad King's brutal murder of Rickard and Brandon Stark when they came south to protest the kidnapping and breach of her betrothal to Robert Baratheon, and then his call for Ned and Robert to be turned over as well.

    As angry as the Starks and Baratheons would have been, not to mention the Martells over the insult to Elia, would it still have led to large-scale war?
     
  15. Miss Chicken

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    I was talking about this to a friend and I believe that the mask is the full form of the person. My friend disagreed with saying that Arya should not be able to take on the form of someone so much taller than her.

    I mention to my friend that she believes that Syria Forel and Jaqen H'ghar and the same person and there is almost as big as height difference between those two as there is between Arya and Walder.

    Also we see an old black man transform in Jaqen H'ghar in one scene and the colour of his hands, not just his face, change.
     
  16. Beagleman

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    IMO, that's the only way it would work, call it super-illusion, hypnosis, magic, shapeshifting... whatever.
     
  17. dahj

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    Impossible to tell really. Mad King was mad, maybe he would have still burnt the Starks/Baratehons/Martells, whoever went to complain first about the marriage(instead of kidnapping) and we would have still ended up with a similar outcome.

    There's also the question if they went public and announced their intentions, would the Mad King himself support it? We know Rhagear was obsessed with the prophecy of the prince who was promised, he probably didn't want to risk anyone ruining it, including his father, so they eloped.
     
  18. dahj

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    HUGE future spoiler here:

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    :D
    (no seriously, you can click, it's only spoiler tagged because it's a LARGE gif)
     
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  19. KennyB

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    Best thing I've seen all day. And I watched episode 6. Lol.
     
  20. theenglish

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    Yes!!! I knew this was going to happen.