FOX: Sleepy Hollow - Season Discussion
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No, but had they advertised it as the "series finale" it definitely would have meant something. 
I really liked tonight's ep... and I even loved the Betsy Ross part!
This episode felt more like a season one episode than any episode I can think of in a long time. George Washington, the War of 1812, the National anthem, Francis Scott Key, crane talking about one of the Found Fathers, etc. Really old school Sleepy Hollow.
Exactly.
Lets hope its not the last time this season, I'd like to end the series with the aura of greatness it began with 3 years ago. (Assuming its not going to be renewed)
Lets hope its not the last time this season, I'd like to end the series with the aura of greatness it began with 3 years ago. (Assuming its not going to be renewed)
Agreed. I really liked the Revolution flashbacks and tie-ins with the Founding Fathers, and the bonus tie-in with the War of 1812. I'm also glad that Reynolds is finally in on things. And the little road trip to Boston was to my liking as well. I just have a bad feeling that either Reynolds or Foster is doomed. And with another trip to the world of the Catacombs in the offing, I think there might still be a meeting with Betsy Ross or the ghost of Betsy Ross coming up.
Fox has been renewing a lot of borderline stuff this year, so it's still within the realm of possibility that Sleepy Hollow will be back.
Fox has been renewing a lot of borderline stuff this year, so it's still within the realm of possibility that Sleepy Hollow will be back.
Yeah, it's nice to have everybody aware of things again.
I'm curious if any of the stuff with the Abby and Jenny's dad is going to get tied into the supernatural stuff eventually.
Once again we got a flashback to an era other than the Revolutionary War. If the show does continue I wouldn't be against seeing them take things to other periods of our history.
I'm curious if any of the stuff with the Abby and Jenny's dad is going to get tied into the supernatural stuff eventually.
Once again we got a flashback to an era other than the Revolutionary War. If the show does continue I wouldn't be against seeing them take things to other periods of our history.
I too liked the various historical references, i.e., the national anthem and Betsy Ross's flag. It's interesting to note, however, that The Star Spangled Banner was not the official anthem of the U.S. until 1931, but at least the melody for the original poem by Francis Scott Key (during the War of 1812) had been written earlier in 1780 by John Stafford Smith.
Things are finally picking up. Pandora has had enough of The Hidden One, and it looks like she will be instrumental in helping Abbie and Crane defeat the bad guy. The Mills sisters are also starting to warm up to their estranged father. Finally, Abbie's boss is in on the secret. But the romance between them is too forced. I don't see any chemistry at all. Very good episode.
Things are finally picking up. Pandora has had enough of The Hidden One, and it looks like she will be instrumental in helping Abbie and Crane defeat the bad guy. The Mills sisters are also starting to warm up to their estranged father. Finally, Abbie's boss is in on the secret. But the romance between them is too forced. I don't see any chemistry at all. Very good episode.
Yep, the Abbie/Reynolds stuff is a total dud. I hope they keep things professional.
I have a feeling he may be the one to die by the end of the season. The ramping up of their romance may be foreshadowing that.
They're the Freemasons. They use magic architecture that they learned from the Egyptians and other ancient peoples. Which, as anyone who watches movies knows, makes them the most amazing works of engineering in the history of forever. Even Indiana Jones had to contend with it in every movie.
Oh, dear. Ever since it became evident that Nikki Reed couldn't act worth a damn, I've been afraid that the show would find some way to bring her out of the forced, contrived flashbacks and into the present. As soon as it was revealed that Betsy Ross had been in the Catacombs, I knew she'd probably be found alive there at some point. And now the day I've dreaded has come at last. I was hoping the producers would've realized by now that she was this season's Hawley and changed their plans in order to write her out. I guess there's still hope that she could make some heroic sacrifice in the season finale, but I doubt we'll be so lucky.
As for the other big tragedy, I couldn't bring myself to care. Joe never really interested me that much either, nor did his relationship with Jenny. And I guess I was distracted by the huge contrivance of Daddy Mills turning out to be yet another of Corben's unrevealed partners in monster-hunting.
I don't think the plot logic entirely tracks here. The Catacombs are supposed to be a place where time goes ten times faster than in the real world. Abbie was subjectively there for over ten months while only a month passed in reality. Ichabod and Abbie went in well ahead of time, with a plan to restore Pandora's Box before the Hidden One could run out his hourglass. And yet they hadn't even started yet when time ran out and TH1 got his ultimate godlike power.
Also, what good was Pandora's plan to disrupt the ley lines when TH1 was able to defeat it with, literally, a wave of his hand? It was pretty much just a way to give the characters something to do until the climax.
As for the other big tragedy, I couldn't bring myself to care. Joe never really interested me that much either, nor did his relationship with Jenny. And I guess I was distracted by the huge contrivance of Daddy Mills turning out to be yet another of Corben's unrevealed partners in monster-hunting.
I don't think the plot logic entirely tracks here. The Catacombs are supposed to be a place where time goes ten times faster than in the real world. Abbie was subjectively there for over ten months while only a month passed in reality. Ichabod and Abbie went in well ahead of time, with a plan to restore Pandora's Box before the Hidden One could run out his hourglass. And yet they hadn't even started yet when time ran out and TH1 got his ultimate godlike power.
Also, what good was Pandora's plan to disrupt the ley lines when TH1 was able to defeat it with, literally, a wave of his hand? It was pretty much just a way to give the characters something to do until the climax.
Hah. Who would've thought Mr. Mills was a Man of Letters back in his days? 
My take on Joe's demise? I dunno; all I can think of is his great bod.
Maybe he'll get resurrected in the finale. Once Crane and Abbie have defeated the Hidden One, perhaps Pandora can restore Joe back to life, sans his Wendigo curse. His apparent death just seemed so anticlimactic.
Regarding the passages of time in the catacombs vs the real world, Betsy said she has been trapped in there for months while in reality it has been centuries "outside." Could it be that she just lost track of time, or her experience is inconsistent with Agent Mills'?
Also, when Crane was analyzing the portrait of Washington crossing the Delaware in the previous episode, I thought he had referenced that he never saw Betty again after she left for the mission. And yet in this episode, he said Betty came back a different person and chose to end her friendship with him. Did I misread that whole conversation?
My take on Joe's demise? I dunno; all I can think of is his great bod.
Maybe he'll get resurrected in the finale. Once Crane and Abbie have defeated the Hidden One, perhaps Pandora can restore Joe back to life, sans his Wendigo curse. His apparent death just seemed so anticlimactic.Regarding the passages of time in the catacombs vs the real world, Betsy said she has been trapped in there for months while in reality it has been centuries "outside." Could it be that she just lost track of time, or her experience is inconsistent with Agent Mills'?
Also, when Crane was analyzing the portrait of Washington crossing the Delaware in the previous episode, I thought he had referenced that he never saw Betty again after she left for the mission. And yet in this episode, he said Betty came back a different person and chose to end her friendship with him. Did I misread that whole conversation?
Crane got a letter from her ending their relationship. He last saw her when she left on the mission with George Washington.
I'm not really going to miss Joe because I found him pretty boring. Ditto his romance with Jenny which dragged almost every time they were together.
Even when the Hidden One does something he's just a bland villain. No menace or creep factor whatsoever. Hopefully he's defeated next week and if there's a fourth season I hope then give us a creepy scary bad guy like Moloch was.
I had a feeling that Papa Mills was somehow involved with or knew about the supernatural stuff.
I'm not really going to miss Joe because I found him pretty boring. Ditto his romance with Jenny which dragged almost every time they were together.
Even when the Hidden One does something he's just a bland villain. No menace or creep factor whatsoever. Hopefully he's defeated next week and if there's a fourth season I hope then give us a creepy scary bad guy like Moloch was.
I had a feeling that Papa Mills was somehow involved with or knew about the supernatural stuff.
1.) She obviously didn't know there was a time differential. She was only conscious for a few months, and presumed time was flowing at the same rate outside, hence believing it was only 1777.
2.) She clearly put herself into some kind of (mystical?) coma and has basically been asleep for the centuries/millennia her body has been trapped in there, wholly unaware of the passage of time. The catacombs themselves keeping her alive the same way they did for Abby.
Given the fact that Betsy thought it was 1777, shouldn't she have questioned why Abbie was with Crane and where she got the outlandish clothes? I wish Crane had introduced her as a relative of Grace Dixon.
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