Which would be another tragic reflection on the past, this time all the way back to season one with Gordo and Dani.
Oh, duh. I was too busy looking for his first name that I overlooked his last. Okay, that makes more sense.
It wouldn't be the first time the show took a storyline to the grave.
Caving means giving into the demands of the Martians, i.e. giving them independence. It was already bad enough they were able to practically steal Goldilocks from Earth but after the initial hooplah everybody arranged themselves into an uneasy business partnership that worked well enough for both sides until Dev's plan got leaked.
So "losing" out on Mars twice in a row is not something any political leader can stomach back home as it does make them look weak and ineffective plus withholding the Iridum is tanking the world economy. Miles and the other council leaders MUST have discussed this after the initial coup was done because it would give them insight how far Earth would go in this crisis and it turns out all the way. Yet they didn't, they seemed to want to return to business as usual after once again upstaging Earth - to me that was strategic negligence and now they act all surprised and shocked that a military force was sent.
I mean the writing is what it is and we all knew that a confrontation was coming so the writers apparently wrote them intentionally a bit naive or even dumb but then again neither of them has any military, statecraft or other professional training that would have helped with a better plan.
Yes, he was suspiciously absent but it doesn't have to mean much since it's a short scene but it's still unclear where Dev is at the moment, he seemed shaken very deeply by the death and the injuries he caused.
I thought the residents of Mars called themselves "Marsies" which means they probably have the Babylon 5 TV show in their universe too.
If not full independance, could Mars gain something similar to devolved powers such as Westminster gave to the devolved governments.
I thought the residents of Mars called themselves "Marsies" which means they probably have the Babylon 5 TV show in their universe too.
Quality is a staple of the multiverse
Anything would have been better than what happened. Had to check what devolved government means as i never heard the term but that's one possibility, full autonomy another.
The thing is that once one group of people sends out part of their group to a far place to colonize it inevitably, after only a few generations, those colonizers start to lose their bonds to the motherland so to speak as they grow more attached to what they built than some far away ruler, just look at US history as a prime example.
So this brings them into inevitable conflict with their origin country as they demand more independence but the other side usually doesn't want to give it since it would lose them a source of income and power and the argument inevitably escalates into conflict.
In a far away future when humanity starts colonizing other star systems ( let's assume they discover FTL travel of some kind) humanity will need a system to handle this peacefully and professionally, maybe alongside the first wave of colonists have an agreement that there is automatic independence after 50 years or so because who wants to go to war every 50 years with a new colony that wants to rule itself?
The writers know how to play the emotional strings... hopper flying trough the storm, explosives rattling, restarting the engines, but it doesn't work at first, then thanks to Aleida's genius the make it > only for the space marines sh*t to hit the fan...
As soon as the space marine team leader and AJ had the honest talk to me it was clear the former would bite the martian asteroid dust sooner rather than later.
I think AJ has plot armor - since dramatic story, space (grand)parents and "auntie" Danielle, bonding with Marcus, the Marsie-Marine - she'll be rescued - whether from the potential marines ship that might still be unaffected or Boyd/Polivanov we'll see.
As for Polivanov and Irina, I think whoever mentioned their potential familial connection in a previous post, is gonna be right.
Just as Kelly Baldwin was to come clean to Walt, she's given another (temporary) out with being given command... I think they both end up finding proof of alien life together, she then comes clean to him only for something to happen and either he or both biting the dust. Kelly's arc would be kinda done at this point anyway.
Lily will do this reporter/filmmaker Marsie- documentary in honor of her dead friend and in order to show the real people, instead of insurgents. Whether that will solve anything I highly doubt it.
the food issue hasn't been solved, the main spaceship of the Marines is still on their way.
Alex as the HVC or whatever will potentially have to face of with Marcus/AJ probably and my guess is, Dev will somehow step in to rescue or protect him from harm.
It's going to be an intriguing final 2 episodes of this penultimate season for sure.
As soon as the space marine team leader and AJ had the honest talk to me it was clear the former would bite the martian asteroid dust sooner rather than later.
I think AJ has plot armor - since dramatic story, space (grand)parents and "auntie" Danielle, bonding with Marcus, the Marsie-Marine - she'll be rescued - whether from the potential marines ship that might still be unaffected or Boyd/Polivanov we'll see.
As for Polivanov and Irina, I think whoever mentioned their potential familial connection in a previous post, is gonna be right.
Just as Kelly Baldwin was to come clean to Walt, she's given another (temporary) out with being given command... I think they both end up finding proof of alien life together, she then comes clean to him only for something to happen and either he or both biting the dust. Kelly's arc would be kinda done at this point anyway.
Lily will do this reporter/filmmaker Marsie- documentary in honor of her dead friend and in order to show the real people, instead of insurgents. Whether that will solve anything I highly doubt it.
the food issue hasn't been solved, the main spaceship of the Marines is still on their way.
Alex as the HVC or whatever will potentially have to face of with Marcus/AJ probably and my guess is, Dev will somehow step in to rescue or protect him from harm.
It's going to be an intriguing final 2 episodes of this penultimate season for sure.
I think they're setting it up so that Alex and AJ will be enemies (or opposites; notice Alex's line in public safety training that he signed up to be a medic, not a fighter) as a counterpoint to Ed and Gordo's friendship at the beginning of the show.
That's on top of Alex having to face off against his old friend, Marcus.
Just watched S5E8. I've been avoiding this thread to not get spoiled. Wow did the shit hit the fan! Things looked like they were going way too smoothly for Boyd and Polivanov. I kept thinking, "the other shoe has to drop!" and sure enough it did. No time to abort the explosive when M6 showed up at the asteroid earlier than expected, Jarrett survived and her superior didn't. I feel so bad for everyone. Great writing in this series that I can sympathize with all sides.
Speaking as another (very) independent no-budget filmmaker, I also feel bad not only for Gully having died in the previous episode but for her not being able to finish Astéroïde, Mon Amour.
The M6 scenes reminded me a lot of Battlestar Galactica.
Speaking as another (very) independent no-budget filmmaker, I also feel bad not only for Gully having died in the previous episode but for her not being able to finish Astéroïde, Mon Amour.
The M6 scenes reminded me a lot of Battlestar Galactica.
OR AJ might even switch sides if she's rescued by the Martians ( Marsies just sounds godawful) just by weight of legacy somehow but i don't think the last two episodes will give them enough character time to make this believable but who knows.
It can work if they do it right. Something will have to happen where she receives an order that goes too far while she's doing some soul-searching. Bragg will have to decide to take action that's very extreme. He's almost out the door, so he can go for broke. Miles not backing down will give Bragg all the excuse he needs.
In a situation where everything happens so fast, Jarrett (and everyone else) will have to think fast.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that term either. It sounds derogative.
Happy Valley is in Melas Chasma which is in the Valle Marineris, so Martians but coloquially Mariners. Like New Zealand and Kiwis. Could even have the first Martian sports team be the Happy Valley Mariners.
I agree. I could picture some asshole on the show yelling "Fucking Marsies!"
Here i think that's the point, especially when used by Earthers ( ?). I can't recall right now but what to the Martians call themselves?
That's the issue. They refer to themselves as Marsies.
what a season 5 episode 8 of for all mankind
Shitfuckdamn.
I knew the Alex/Marcus reunion was going to be bad but I didn't expect it would be that bad.
All Alex wanted to do was to find Lily and get medical supplies for Dmitri. Instead, he witnessed a senseless slaughtering...and then accidentally shot his own friend in a kneejerk reaction due to his frayed nerves.
But damn, that look of fury Alex directed at the camera, intended for Dev, is righteous as fuck.
Let's get real here: The M6 Marine mission is messy as hell. Multiple cases of trigger-happy shooting, ask questions maybe later. Incorrect map intel. Poor comms. And why the hell is Jarrett on the mission?
In a real world situation, she would've been grounded for psych eval after the experience she just endured. But I guess I should've known these aren't our Marines considering their lackadaisical haircuts. Yeah, yeah, I know almost all of this is for the sake of the drama and you can't sideline a third-generation character in the penultimate episode of the season, but I'm still hoping these fundamental flaws are deliberate signs of a bad system.
Not sorry to see Palmer die the way he did but it's unfortunate he revealed the truth to Lily about Miles...and despite her vocal objections, I think deep down she believes him. On the plus side, Stanislaus redeemed himself in the end.
The interludes to Titan were sparse, but after some drawbacks, Kelly may have discovered life on another world...although I was petrified that her distraction would cause Elena (?) to fall during her lowering down to safety.
Hard to believe there's only one episode left in the season when there feels like so much ground left to cover. I'm not sure how this going to conclude in a satisfying manner, but perhaps a combination of Dev finally stepping in, Lenya revealing the truth of the situation and actually having SDM's back, and Alex's and Lily's reporting of what they saw may quickly turn the tide. But I'm not sure if I'll buy in a single episode.
I knew the Alex/Marcus reunion was going to be bad but I didn't expect it would be that bad.
All Alex wanted to do was to find Lily and get medical supplies for Dmitri. Instead, he witnessed a senseless slaughtering...and then accidentally shot his own friend in a kneejerk reaction due to his frayed nerves.
But damn, that look of fury Alex directed at the camera, intended for Dev, is righteous as fuck.
Let's get real here: The M6 Marine mission is messy as hell. Multiple cases of trigger-happy shooting, ask questions maybe later. Incorrect map intel. Poor comms. And why the hell is Jarrett on the mission?
In a real world situation, she would've been grounded for psych eval after the experience she just endured. But I guess I should've known these aren't our Marines considering their lackadaisical haircuts. Yeah, yeah, I know almost all of this is for the sake of the drama and you can't sideline a third-generation character in the penultimate episode of the season, but I'm still hoping these fundamental flaws are deliberate signs of a bad system.
Not sorry to see Palmer die the way he did but it's unfortunate he revealed the truth to Lily about Miles...and despite her vocal objections, I think deep down she believes him. On the plus side, Stanislaus redeemed himself in the end.
The interludes to Titan were sparse, but after some drawbacks, Kelly may have discovered life on another world...although I was petrified that her distraction would cause Elena (?) to fall during her lowering down to safety.
Hard to believe there's only one episode left in the season when there feels like so much ground left to cover. I'm not sure how this going to conclude in a satisfying manner, but perhaps a combination of Dev finally stepping in, Lenya revealing the truth of the situation and actually having SDM's back, and Alex's and Lily's reporting of what they saw may quickly turn the tide. But I'm not sure if I'll buy in a single episode.
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