For All Mankind Trailer - Apple TV- SPOILER

[David cgc]

There's something that's been itching at me. That scene where Danny starts bullying the other crewmember and making him continue to imitate the Gordo and Tracey movie, I feel like I've seen that exact scene before of someone being offended by somebody's impression of something and forcing someone to continue it after it's become awkward, recently, but I can't figure out where it could've been. Any ideas?

 

[Tuskin38]

They had a gen 1 iPod on the Sojourner. I know they’re trying to make it seem like tech is advancing faster than IRL, but it would be nice if they at least tried to make original designs, or disguise them.

 

[E-DUB]

I don't know if Margo gave the Russian good intel, bad intel, or no intel. Either way I can see them burning her just out of pure spite.

 

[FreezeC77]

I don't know if Margo gave the Russian good intel, bad intel, or no intel. Either way I can see them burning her just out of pure spite.

I think she gave them good intel, but I could see the Russians going the other way and accusing her of a being a spy who helped sabotage the mission and blame it on her and her Russian counterpart/love interest.

The fact the Russians were doing ok until they turned on their engine and jacked it up 20% past the safety specs (which Margo pointed out was not good). Either way though if her involvement is revealed she's getting removed at NASA and prob charged with treason so I would assume it will be something like Ellen has to pardon Margo.

Then there was that shot of apparently (a not that well hidden) listening device in the Oval Office which I would think they routinely swept it for bugs in the mid 1990s... Unless she's the one doing it intentionally and will wind up recording something she shouldn't have (ala Nixon)

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

so uhm

Spoiler: (c)rushing thoughts on episode 4

• Dev(il) starting to show his true colors, knew the "Ok Ed, we'll give you a manual override" had a catch or should I say override/lock out patch...
• Those recordings that are on the time delay back of the Sovjet thrusters are gonna lead to Margo's downfall.
• Aleida is super competent. Hope she will not suffer from Margo's downfall on a professional level. She has her own life issues to deal with however.
  
• Liked how Ed and Danielle were competitive, but it seemed at least friendlier and the bar talk/scene behavior of Ed kind of forgiven.
• Loved "Radio Kelly Baldwin" - very inspirational.
• Still think Ed will perish this season while rescuing Kelly (and maybe others) whether in Space or on Mars
  
• the Tracy/Gordon boys are just trouble on way or another... (Can't we just airlock them?!)
  
• Feel like they always seem to find a way for a gruesome WTF astronaut/cosmonaut death. I still have nightmarish thoughts about the poor Cosmonaut on the moon (shot and burned alive), now her being crushed by a rocket)

 

[FPAlpha]

What?

That last minute was nailbiting and heartbreaking all rolled into one. The Soviet ship rolling over that poor astronaut was especially gruesome.

Also - who had it in the betting pool that Dev was an asshole? He seemed too good to be true but when it was time to decide being the winner or doing the right thing he decided for himself, never mind the "vote" ( which he knew how to manipulate).

Congrats to Ed knowing what is right.

Wow - the next episodes for sure won't let up. We still don't know if both the Soviet ship and the US one are going to remain spaceworthy, Danny has become an even bigger asshole and the Soviets now are on the same ship as the "traitor". Prime drama potential.

We know simply by virtue of it being a TV show that Sojourner will survive and unless the trailer's were "lying" that all 3 parties make it to Mars - i wonder if the damage to Sojourner would be manageable and they still can siphon off enough fuel to create an ad hoc Soviet/USA mission ( the US has lost at least one astronaut, possibly 2 and the Soviets lost 1).

Might have huge political impact too and with the Soviet fuel might get them back into the race, with the added bonus that they are now the heroes and Helios the assholes, who wouldn't stop even though they had better chances ( prime political points if Ellen would have wanted to go that route).

Also do i hate conspiracy theorists!

I think she gave them good intel, but I could see the Russians going the other way and accusing her of a being a spy who helped sabotage the mission and blame it on her and her Russian counterpart/love interest.

The fact the Russians were doing ok until they turned on their engine and jacked it up 20% past the safety specs (which Margo pointed out was not good). Either way though if her involvement is revealed she's getting removed at NASA and prob charged with treason so I would assume it will be something like Ellen has to pardon Margo.

Then there was that shot of apparently (a not that well hidden) listening device in the Oval Office which I would think they routinely swept it for bugs in the mid 1990s... Unless she's the one doing it intentionally and will wind up recording something she shouldn't have (ala Nixon)

Oh Margo will be tried as a traitor 100%, there is no way Ellen can go easy on her especially how NASA's standing is at the moment in the public, not to mention it wouldn't even be her decision but the judicial system and she won't be able to protect her.

 

[Airmandan]

Given both craft are compromised, Ed and crew will have to render aid at this point. They'll either do it on their own or Dev and the earthside crew will allow control back to the ship. Makes for a more united landing on Mars, though there will doubtless be friction amongst all parties.

 

[trash80]

so uhm

Spoiler: (cr)ushing thoughts on episode 4

• Feel like they always seem to find a way for a gruesome WTF astronaut/cosmonaut death. I still have nightmarish thoughts about the poor Cosmonaut on the moon (shot and burned alive), now her being crushed by a rocket)

Plus the guy in S1 (i think) who was sucked into the exhaust plume of the Saturn V third stage.

 

[FreezeC77]

Given both craft are compromised, Ed and crew will have to render aid at this point. They'll either do it on their own or Dev and the earthside crew will allow control back to the ship. Makes for a more united landing on Mars, though there will doubtless be friction amongst all parties.

I would think if Dev does not offer to immediately have his ship help the US shuttle that Ellen would do that "nationalization/takeover" of Helios to force them to rescue US citizens. I wonder if it would end up because using resources for the rescue they're actually FORCED to go to Mars because of having so many extra people. Set-up hydroponics there and grow food, create more fuel, that kinda thing.

 

[1001001]

Poor Margo…



You just knew that Elon Musk guy was going to turn out to be a complete asshole.

Damn good show.

 

[Marc]

People were surprised that Sojourner 1 deployed the solar sail.

Guess no-one else thought it was a viable idea.

Might not have worked for Helios 1 because of it's design and mass but might have been worth considering for the russians although going the nuclear drive is more in line with their brutal force approach of the soviet era.

Also thought Bill might have known about unless NASA came up with after he jumped to Helios.

Oh and a big fuck you to the crew at helios for their attitude to rescuing the russians. Ed was right - they were the best option.

 

[Caretaker]

Actress Cynthy Wu posted the link to Kelly Baldwin's Pirate Radio Playlist (including songs not heard onscreen in "Happy Valley") to Twitter.
Apple Music
Someone created a Spotify copy of the playlist.

 

[FPAlpha]

Oh and a big fuck you to the crew at helios for their attitude to rescuing the russians. Ed was right - they were the best option.

That's technocrats and the private sector to you - they won't do anything humanitarian or what's right if it affects the bottom line or they're forced by public opinion. Now that doesn't mean governments are that much better but it is in their makeup to provide assistance with no profit to be made or even if it means cancelling projects, they're forced to by law and the few good people who are idealistic to do what's right.

This often means they come second so everybody has to make their choice between doing the right thing or being a winner, it's not always possible to be both.

 

[Aragorn]

Dev Ayesa has surrounded himself with a lot of shitty people. But the group vote thing isn't really a group vote since he knows exactly how to manipulate them to agree with him.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Very late to the show but I only just had a chance to watch last week's episode. Fuck, what a doozy.

I loved the solar sails reveal in the cold opening to the point that left me wondering if Moore, Menosky, or someone else on the staff was involved with the writing of the Deep Space Nine episode "Explorers" (it wasn't; story by Hilary J. Bader, teleplay by René Echevarria). I loved seeing Danielle getting the upper hand on Ed, right after he, Dev, and everyone else with Helios were prematurely smug.

And then everything went to fucking shit.

Of course the Soviets went and did something completely foolhardy with their nuclear engineers and not only fucked up their mission, but at least one other mission. Good on Ed for showing his humanity once again and showing how far he has come since Jamestown. But then Dev finally showed his true colors: A complete and selfish bastard with his loyalists wrapped around his fingers. That wasn't much of a debate they had and it wasn't lost on me that the two veteran NASA personnel were the only two who put saving lives over their mission.

That final sequence was fucking heart wrenching. I cannot imagine a worse way to die than to be rolled over by an fucking nuclear spaceship. And I sure hope Tony Curran survives because I was really happy to see him as part of the Sojourner 1 crew.

On a completely different note, I loved seeing both Lev Gorn and Vera Cherny popping up in this episode, both of whom are alums from the grossly underrated show The Americans, along with Alexander Sokovikov (who returns as Rolan Baranov). Hopefully we'll get to see plenty of the characters (one a Mars 94 cosmonaut, the other the Roscosmos director). Speaking of Baranov, I didn't expect to see him return but I love his inclusion with the Sojourner 1 crew...even if his inclusion was obviously for the forthcoming tensions between the two crews.

Then there was that shot of apparently (a not that well hidden) listening device in the Oval Office which I would think they routinely swept it for bugs in the mid 1990s... Unless she's the one doing it intentionally and will wind up recording something she shouldn't have (ala Nixon)

Yeah, I wondered about that, too. Considering it seemed so out in the open made me think they were just recording themselves.

Loved "Radio Kelly Baldwin" - very inspirational.

I loved that, too, and it makes me wish the good-natured space race lasted longer so we could've gotten more of Radio Kelly.

Oh Margo will be tried as a traitor 100%, there is no way Ellen can go easy on her especially how NASA's standing is at the moment in the public, not to mention it wouldn't even be her decision but the judicial system and she won't be able to protect her.

Yup. I hate to say it but if and when Margo is outed, she's completely screwed.

I would think if Dev does not offer to immediately have his ship help the US shuttle that Ellen would do that "nationalization/takeover" of Helios to force them to rescue US citizens. I wonder if it would end up because using resources for the rescue they're actually FORCED to go to Mars because of having so many extra people. Set-up hydroponics there and grow food, create more fuel, that kinda thing.

That would be an intriguing twist...and I hope you're right on that thought.

 

[trash80]

Maybe Margo defects to the workers' paradise, that would be an interesting twist.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Ellen could always pardon Margo, but I doubt she will. Margo is probably my favorite character, but there's no way she won't go down. When the US and Soviet astronauts have to work together, the similarities of the engines will be discovered.

This season, so far, has been a lot better than season 2. *knock on wood*.

There's something that's been itching at me. That scene where Danny starts bullying the other crewmember and making him continue to imitate the Gordo and Tracey movie, I feel like I've seen that exact scene before of someone being offended by somebody's impression of something and forcing someone to continue it after it's become awkward, recently, but I can't figure out where it could've been. Any ideas?

Same wikth me and I have no idea where I've seen this before!

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

I loved the solar sails reveal in the cold opening to the point that left me wondering if Moore, Menosky, or someone else on the staff was involved with the writing of the Deep Space Nine episode "Explorers" (it wasn't; story by Hilary J. Bader, teleplay by René Echevarria)...



....On a completely different note, I loved seeing both Lev Gorn and Vera Cherny popping up in this episode, both of whom are alums from the grossly underrated show The Americans...

the Sisko father son solar-sailing trip aka "Explorers" from DS9 is one of my favorite of that series.
Maybe they still were inspirred by it somehow. Also I believe last year or so a satelitte with a solar sail was launched to test out this concept.

ah, yes the Americans - liked Lev Gorn there as well. Knew he was familiar from somewhere.

 

[marillion]

Dev Ayesa has surrounded himself with a lot of shitty people. But the group vote thing isn't really a group vote since he knows exactly how to manipulate them to agree with him.

Which is why dictators and sycophants are often showered with flowers instead of rocks by the masses.

They're not even trying to be at all subtle with the analogies and allegories to what is going on in our real society today.

 

[Aragorn]

3x05 is up!