When was Riker an Admiral?
First SFA Trailer
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Alternate future in All Good Things.
Demoted from what? The last time we saw him in PIC he was a captain.
Emphasis on "alternate."
In a sense it horrifies me.
In another sense, it does not surprise me at all.
Trailer for new show drops. Normally at this time it’s good to break it down, frame by frame. Try to figure out what the show is gonna be like and so on.
Fandom fixates on one single frame of a list of names and spends thousands of words discussing who made what rank from all the old shows.
Never change, Star Trek fandom. Never change.
In another sense, it does not surprise me at all.
Trailer for new show drops. Normally at this time it’s good to break it down, frame by frame. Try to figure out what the show is gonna be like and so on.
Fandom fixates on one single frame of a list of names and spends thousands of words discussing who made what rank from all the old shows.
Never change, Star Trek fandom. Never change.
Except everything in the trailer shows that it's leaning heavily on bermaner 24th century Star Trek.
All the names on that historical officer list are from 800 years ago. The poster talking about what happened to captain Benjamin Sisko.
It has the same issues that I saw in ST: D season 5 - in the writer's Minds, there was no notable Starfleet history from 2480 to 3,150 AD in the Star Trek universe.
And that this means that wall is the only thing the show will be about.
Fandom tends to hyperfocus on the wrong things. Usually minutiae driven.
Conspiracy theory. They got Avery Brooks back. I know it’s unlikely but 8 years ago we would have said that about Stewart/Spiner.
The Emissary has returned! Praise the Prophets!
Sisko’s on a short list of characters from BermaTrek who could be alive in the future… along with the EMH (taken), Data 2.0, Q and Guinan (all done).
I don’t think Sisko is in this show, but if it does turn out I was right I’m gonna remember all of this stuff and tell you guys how clever I was.
I don’t think Sisko is in this show, but if it does turn out I was right I’m gonna remember all of this stuff and tell you guys how clever I was.
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They did that with TNG from Season 3 on - a Cliffhanger with DIRE Federation/Galctic/Universal consequenses and TNG fans ate it up.
(And in the TNG S7 finale - Picard had to ensure the creatopn/evoulution of the Human race, and much of the Alpha Quadrant itself - and it's still .lauded today as one of the best Trek series finales.)
The difference of course is that eight years Stewart and Spiner were still working actors, and still are in fact, while Brooks hasn't been a working actor for twenty years. And I don't think he cares about Star Trek enough to come out of retirement at this stage for it.
He wouldn't even do anything for the Documentary
1. That character is a hologram
2. This show is set in the 32nd Century, so she couldn't be his daughter either way unless there was time travel involved.
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It’s a complicated situation as I understand it.
I’m I right in thinking that (at least Brooks believes) that he hasn’t worked as an actor due to being placed on some kind of blacklist?
I mean, he may have been inactive as an actor not by choice.
Something like this could be a way back in, should he want such a thing.
Also, money talks.
I still don’t think he’d do it, but I can dream.
They did that with TNG from Season 3 on - a Cliffhanger with DIRE Federation/Galctic/Universal consequenses and TNG fans ate it up.
(And in the TNG S7 finale - Picard had to ensure the creatopn/evoulution of the Human race, and much of the Alpha Quadrant itself - and it's still .lauded today as one of the best Trek series finales.)
Yeah, but it started with Season 3. Not Season 1. So the show earned its big cliffhangers by putting the characters through the wringer (and making us like them) first.
Also, this show's protagonist are young people, so they arguably should be facing a smaller risk until they grow up a bit. Though I guess one could argue Prodigy worked quite well, despite the Season 1 finale putting the entire Federation at stake, and the Season 2 finale the entire base reality of the prime universe. Still, if PRO was renewed for a third season, they'd have a very hard time escalating it any further.
Brooks apparently has continued to work in theater. He also became a tenured professor after leaving Trek. Frankly, he didn't need the money of TV or movies, so I think he just decided to focus on what makes him happy, which apparently is no longer TV.
Reading between the lines, he apparently got a reputation as difficult to work with for various reasons. Cirroc Lofton has claimed he was blackisted by Hollywood, though this hasn't been backed up by anyone else. I could see him becoming bitter about that and just walking away from anything Trek related, because he felt Trek destroyed his career.
Sorry. Not being obtuse. Did Lofton say Brooks was blacklisted or did he say he himself was blacklisted?
Thing about Brooks that we do know. He’s a mercurial character. He might have decided no more Trek for 20+ years, but then one morning jangled out a bunch of notes on his piano and thought, ‘this…is the mo-ment, I neeeeed to be Sis-ko again. Yeeeeah!’.
But you’re right. Probably not.
I don’t think he’s in SFA.
I don’t!
But I hope he is…
Brooks. Lofton has also barely worked since the end of DS9, but I think that's for clearer reasons - he's just gotten rusty with age. If you've seen him in fan films like Renegades, or in Siddig's COVID-era "radio plays" it's pretty clear he's forgotten a lot of his acting chops.
That said, he does still get an occasional bit role every year or two (even outside of Trek stuff), so it's clear his agent is still trying to find him things.
Yeah, it's always possible. Getting him back, unfortunately, would mean playing to his ego, much as was the case for Picard Season 1.
Did some Google research on the matter. It appears to be some sort of urban legend, everyone is convinced there's an interview out there where Brooks claims he's been blacklisted, but no one seems able to provide a link to the interview or definitive proof it exists.
Me, I suspect these days his inactivity in acting circles has more to do with the fact he is in his late seventies and has had some health issues, particularly in the past decade.
