"First Contact" - The rape of Riker

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  1. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It happened.

    http://www.chakoteya.net/Voyager/208.htm

    Later, even though it was backstory and didn't actually happen, WWII B'Elanna was pretending to be in love with the holographic German officer she was having sex with, to steal intelligence, and got preggers, and then probably didn't dangerously abort the baby 1940s style, to maintain the charade that she's into the NAZI.

    Either the holokraut was lied to so well that it was misrepresentation, or he knew that she was lying, and did not care so long as he got some action, so this could be the very rare "double misrepresentation" even though it was an implanted memory, and one of them was a hologram.
     
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  2. Ragitsu

    Ragitsu Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Was that scene with Janeway played for laughs? From what little I've gathered, I'm not sensing a comedic intention.
     
  3. Ríu ríu chíu

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    Don't like Germans much, do ya?
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    I googled to see how offensive the word was.

    50/50?

    But it's time line specific and he's a NAZI.

    ..


    While googling I bumped into the slur "Hienie" which is short for Heinrich.

    Sounded too much like "bum" and it would have gotten confusing.

    I'm now remembering "Fritz" which seems a little less offense.
     
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  5. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    During the war, ‘Kraut’ was intended and used as an insult to ALL Germans. Not just Nazis. Of course, back then, nobody really cared there was a difference.

    But that’s not true anymore…right?
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    The Germans are fine people.

    I almost lost my virginity to a German.
     
  7. Serveaux

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    Did she offer to help you escape from a hospital if you'd make love to her?
     
  8. Ragitsu

    Ragitsu Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Dodging like Neo.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No, it involved standing between a pair of bickering lesbians and afterhours at a laser strike arena.
     
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  10. Serveaux

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    As long as there was no coercion involved. ;)
     
  11. JesterFace

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    We've all been there.
     
  12. Crazy 4 XmasLights

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    Getting back to the episode, I think that Riker could have pinched her cheeks, tweaked her nose, counted her ribs, massaged her toes, spun around three times, muttered some obscure Latin text, and then explained afterwards "that's how our species make love". I mean, who's she gonna check with? ;)
     
  13. JesterFace

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    That's what I thought, who knows what kind of stuff Riker claimed was the human way to make love.

    OTOH, maybe Riker used the situation to fulfil his weirdest fantasies that even the holodeck refused to create....
     
  14. Crazy 4 XmasLights

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    Well, he was recovering from massive internal injuries, so that probably put a limit on the kink factor.
     
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  15. JesterFace

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    Or his injuries made him even kinkier, masochist Riker?
     
  16. Crazy 4 XmasLights

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    Well, maybe there was an additional element to those Klingon exercise holodeck adventures he went on with Worf... after killing Yellow Skull Guy, maybe they had to face a band of growling Klingon women.
     
  17. Mojochi

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    Ahh... HoloSkeletor. He lost so many fights against everybody Worf ever knew
     
  18. Crazy 4 XmasLights

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    Maybe Worf got the idea for him from old Earth cartoons.
     
  19. E-DUB

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    So a German hobo could be both a Hienie and a bum?
     
  20. Guy Gardener

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    And if he's arrogant or condescending, then he can be an Ass too.