Poll Favorite PLANET OF THE APES films & tv series?

[TREK_GOD_1]

The TV series really changed things, but I liked the world they established. I rationalized it in that it took place in the western part of North America while the films were in the New York area. Also, they were in a somewhat different time also.

The TV series had a few continuity errors, but from a production standpoint, it was not a coincidence that:

• series was set in California--where the last movie left off.
  
• Jumping ahead from the state of humanity seen in Battle's early 21st century timeline to 3085, one can see how a post-Caesar apes society still had talking humans, but his attempt to establish them as equals had long been abandoned in favor of making humans a completely subservient class. Humanity's slow decline seemed to follow a natural direction set by the new timeline.

POTA-TV was not meant to be part of the original timeline experienced by Taylor, but riding along the new "lane" created by the birth of Caesar. Additionally, the TV series takes other cues from Battle, such as encounters with technologically advanced humans based in California ("The Legacy") or groups with access to it. While the high council of POTA-TV was modeled after that seen in the 1968 film, its tone leaned in the direction of the more laid back government started by Caesar, rather than the fist-shaking, oligarchical structure of the movie version.

 

[Galileo7]

Try shocked that anyone just paying light attention to the filmmakers behind the reboots should know the films have no connection to the APJAC movie productions released from 1968-1973, or the two TV series.

Agree. ...or Tim Burton's 2001 film.

 

[Markonian]

My favourite is the 2001 film. When I saw it as a child, it was scary and cool and thought-provoking. I honestly tried to make sense of the ending and just thought I'm too dense to unravel the puzzle.

 

[Snaploud]

And then there's that stupid retcon about apes being bred into pets after the cats and dogs died out (I mean, what??? What about rabbits and ferrets and guinea pigs and whatnot?),

Now I want to watch Planet of the Guinea Pigs...

 

[Galileo7]

.....
At the time, I loved Tim Burton's take, but in retrospect, I recognize how ridiculous it is. I like your suggestion that film should've started with its ending. That would have made it far more interesting than a straight remake but with a twist.
......

Thanks. Tim Burton's Planet Of The Apes(2001) film, I think that the final scene crashing in Washington D.C. should have been where the film began, not ended.

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[sbk1234]

The TV series had a few continuity errors, but from a production standpoint, it was not a coincidence that:

• series was set in California--where the last movie left off.
  
• Jumping ahead from the state of humanity seen in Battle's early 21st century timeline to 3085, one can see how a post-Caesar apes society still had talking humans, but his attempt to establish them as equals had long been abandoned in favor of making humans a completely subservient class. Humanity's slow decline seemed to follow a natural direction set by the new timeline.

POTA-TV was not meant to be part of the original timeline experienced by Taylor, but riding along the new "lane" created by the birth of Caesar. Additionally, the TV series takes other cues from Battle, such as encounters with technologically advanced humans based in California ("The Legacy") or groups with access to it. While the high council of POTA-TV was modeled after that seen in the 1968 film, its tone leaned in the direction of the more laid back government started by Caesar, rather than the fist-shaking, oligarchical structure of the movie version.

Good points, all. Of course, as a 7-year-old kid when the series was on, I didn't really analyze it that in depth. I do seem to remember thinking Galen was the great-great-grandson or something of Caesar, but in my own head canon, I've abandoned that line of thinking.

 

[Greg Cox]

This is where I can't resist mentioning that Doctor Zaius's grandfather figures into plot of my upcoming APES story, coming out next month, which takes place about a generation or so before the 1968 movie . ...

 

[sbk1234]

This is where I can't resist mentioning that Doctor Zaius's grandfather figures into plot of my upcoming APES story, coming out next month, which takes place about a generation or so before the 1968 movie . ...

Need more details!!!!

 

[Greg Cox]

PLANET OF THE APES: TALES FROM THE FORBIDDEN ZONE is a short-story collection coming out next month from Titan. No surprise, it features a fair number of familiar names from around these parts: Dayton Ward, John Jackson Miller, Robert Greenberger, etc.

Needless to say, Planet of the Apes was high on my bucket list of fan faves I've never written for, so I jumped at the chance to contribute. The stories are all set in the timeline of "classic" POTA, namely the five original movies and the TV series.

 

[sbk1234]

PLANET OF THE APES: TALES FROM THE FORBIDDEN ZONE is a short-story collection coming out next month from Titan. No surprise, it features a fair number of familiar names from around these parts: Dayton Ward, John Jackson Miller, Robert Greenberger, etc.

Needless to say, Planet of the Apes was high on my bucket list of fan faves I've never written for, so I jumped at the chance to contribute. The stories are all set in the timeline of "classic" POTA, namely the five original movies and the TV series.

Can't wait. POTA was the very first sci-fi that I ever really watched, and certainly of which I was ever a fan.
(It's a little known fact that in first grade, I tried to get everyone in my class to call me Cornelius.)
The book should be a lot of fun.

 

[Greg Cox]

Can't wait. POTA was the very first sci-fi that I ever really watched, and certainly of which I was ever a fan.
(It's a little known fact that in first grade, I tried to get everyone in my class to call me Cornelius.)
The book should be a lot of fun.

Thanks, Cornelius.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Damn, that does sound exciting! Thanks for letting us know about it, Greg.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

My favourite is the 2001 film. When I saw it as a child, it was scary and cool and thought-provoking. I honestly tried to make sense of the ending and just thought I'm too dense to unravel the puzzle.

I foresaw three possibilities:

- Parallel universe

- General Thade managed to escape from his 'underwater prison' and stole the time pod that the other ape had used. When Thade escaped back through the time warp he ended up centuries in Earth's past, and led a revolt of his own. (This one is unlikely, though, since apes are deathly afraid of water. So how could Thade have escaped?)

- Remember that one bit where the Oberon crewmembers hear their own distress signal, which they have yet to send? Perhaps once they heard it, they turned the station around and went home. Thus the ape revolt which (in the original timeline) happened after the crash, instead happened on Earth itself.

 

[RJDiogenes]

PLANET OF THE APES: TALES FROM THE FORBIDDEN ZONE is a short-story collection coming out next month from Titan. No surprise, it features a fair number of familiar names from around these parts: Dayton Ward, John Jackson Miller, Robert Greenberger, etc.

And it's available for pre-order on Amazon.

 

[Greg Cox]

I'm haunting my front porch waiting for my contributor's copies--and looking forward to reading the other stories.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

POTA-TV was not meant to be part of the original timeline experienced by Taylor, but riding along the new "lane" created by the birth of Caesar.

So no closed time loop, then?

 

[Galileo7]

The TV series had a few continuity errors, but from a production standpoint, it was not a coincidence that:

• series was set in California--where the last movie left off.
  
• Jumping ahead from the state of humanity seen in Battle's early 21st century timeline to 3085, one can see how a post-Caesar apes society still had talking humans, but his attempt to establish them as equals had long been abandoned in favor of making humans a completely subservient class. Humanity's slow decline seemed to follow a natural direction set by the new timeline.

POTA-TV was not meant to be part of the original timeline experienced by Taylor, but riding along the new "lane" created by the birth of Caesar. Additionally, the TV series takes other cues from Battle, such as encounters with technologically advanced humans based in California ("The Legacy") or groups with access to it. While the high council of POTA-TV was modeled after that seen in the 1968 film, its tone leaned in the direction of the more laid back government started by Caesar, rather than the fist-shaking, oligarchical structure of the movie version.

That would also apply to the 1975-76 animated series Return To The Planet Of The Apes.

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So no closed time loop, then?

No.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ I suppose not. Although isn't POTA-TV following on from the original timeline, then? I seem to recall one episode featuring a painting of a futuristic human city dating from about the 2500's...

 

[Galileo7]

^ I suppose not. Although isn't POTA-TV following on from the original timeline, then? I seem to recall one episode featuring a painting of a futuristic human city dating from about the 2500's...

I know that was in the pilot episode Escape From Tomorrow" the old book states 2503 A.D.
In the original five films timeline there would be no New York City like that in 2503 or published book.
At the 18 minute mark:

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[Christopher]

Most TV series based on movies are not trying to be in the exact same continuity/reality as their source material. Continuity is more an obsession of fans than creators. Creators are just trying to shape concepts into a form that will serve their needs, and if that means ignoring, changing, and contradicting elements of the source material, they won't hesitate to do so -- for instance, the Starman TV series pushed the events of the movie back from the mid-'80s to the early '70s so that the lead character could have a teenage son in the show, and Men in Black: The Series ignored the ending of the movie so that J & K would still be partners. TV adaptations that actually fit smoothly in the same universe as the movies they're based on are extremely rare, and Planet of the Apes is not one of them. Like most such adaptations, it took what ingredients it could use from the source and put them together in a new way that suited its own needs. It's in the vein of something like the Logan's Run TV series from a few years later -- not a sequel to the movie, but a loose remake starting over with a variation of the same story.