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Fargo, Season 5. Bout darn time

Given how adept Roy is/was at covering things up/keeping everyone under his thumb, where’d the dossier of his abuse of Nadine, complete with photos, come from?
 
Given how adept Roy is/was at covering things up/keeping everyone under his thumb, where’d the dossier of his abuse of Nadine, complete with photos, come from?
Didn't it come from the FBI agents who wanted Dot to help them get Roy?
 
If it came from the FBI they would have enough to arrest him unless they couldn't because they as far as they knew had no idea that Dot was still alive. Though it might simply be as easy as someone turning on him who was a cop or secretary.
 
If it came from the FBI they would have enough to arrest him unless they couldn't because they as far as they knew had no idea that Dot was still alive. Though it might simply be as easy as someone turning on him who was a cop or secretary.
Which is why I thought the FBI agents went to interview Dot at the hospital, and Dot escaped after hiding Wayne from Roy's goons. The agents want Dot to help them put Roy away by turning some of "the players," because the file is not enough to do it alone. Also their boss in N. Dakota appears to be in Roy's pocket and wouldn't get a warrant when the FBI agents requested it after an informant disappeared. Their boss told them to treat Roy as a "hobby."
 
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I forget. Does she knows they have the photos? I wonder if she isn't aware those photos.
 
Given how adept Roy is/was at covering things up/keeping everyone under his thumb, where’d the dossier of his abuse of Nadine, complete with photos, come from?

Didn't it come from the FBI agents who wanted Dot to help them get Roy?

If it came from the FBI they would have enough to arrest him unless they couldn't because they as far as they knew had no idea that Dot was still alive. Though it might simply be as easy as someone turning on him who was a cop or secretary.

Exacrly. Everything we’ve been shown so far indicates Roy would have been able to keep those records from existing, let alone fall into the hands of the Feds (or a potential election opponent).
 
Exacrly. Everything we’ve been shown so far indicates Roy would have been able to keep those records from existing, let alone fall into the hands of the Feds (or a potential election opponent).
I doubt that Stark county (where Roy is sheriff) has a hospital. She was probably treated in a hospital outside Stark county in Bismark (the closest city with an ER). The report would be made at the hospital where Dot was treated, given to that county sheriff, filed and kept behind the blue wall. The bureaucracy demands a file be made, but the District Attorney probably won't act on it even if he sees it.
 
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I’m five episodes in now, so far by far the best Fargo season.

Jon Hamm might be one of the most hateable characters in TV history. Like if Ben Shapiro’s fantasies of being John Wayne manifested in reality.
 
This is definitely the best season since the first two. This was an interesting episode, on the one hand some interesting stuff around the nature of domestic violence and how people react to it, but the all a dream nature did piss me off I can't lie, I should have realised what was coming when Dorothy made that puppet in super quick time.

So was the postcard part of the dream or not? Did Linda really live that for Dot to find?

The revelation of "your husband is here" was pretty obvious as well. I do wonder what Roy's plan is now, keep Nadine as a secret second wife in the basement? (shudder) or does he want to just murder her (also shudder but less icky) or is he gonna dispense with wife #3 (seems unlikely especially given he's in bed with her father).

Gator is such an idiot, although we did get a glimpse at how shitty his childhood must have been which at least makes you empathise with him a little more. I don't think there's any way back/redemption for him though at this point.

I still wonder what role Ole with have to play in the final conflict, I'm guessing he'll remain an apolitical force of nature but maybe he'll forget about Roy and Dot and just want revenge on Gator.
 
What I like about Jon Hamm besides the fact he is a talented actor that can do drama and comedy is he doesn't slide by on his looks. The guy is one sexy man and if wanted he could really just milk that but he doesn't. Not that I doubt it didn't hurt him in getting jobs.:lol:
 
Season 2 was my favorite season before this. I never really got into season 1. The series in general doesn't live up to the "These events really happened" conceit nearly as well as the movie, I just found it not super plausible and found BBT's villain one dimensional.

(And yes, while TV series in general aren't held to a high standard for realism, TV series that start with "All these events are real" are.)
 
We know that Dot knows where at least one body is "buried."

I hate to have to wait another week to see what happens to Gator, when he discovers he has a back seat passenger.
 
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Danish Graves, we hardly knew you. But, damn, you were an idiot for going to that Ranch alone. What the fuck were you thinking? Especially when Lorraine tried to call you. Your silver tongue and lawyer cunning can only get you so far and nowhere in the land of where guns rule over God by a man who sees no sin from himself. Loved the debate racket but only worked in the public turf.

Roy Tillman is truly one of the worst fucking pieces of shit to ever existed...and I just rewatched Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 with High Evolutionary's cruelty.

I did cheer when Olmstead kicked out that jerk.
Yeah, that was a long time coming. I love how she didn't even bat an eye. Wasn't even shocked by the betrayal. Just changed her shirt and kicked that asshole to the curb in a single breath.

I really REALLY wanted
Dot to choke Roy with that chain like Leia choked Jabba!
I think we all wanted that. Fuck.
 
I m thinking though that Dot or anyone might not kill him after the last episode. When she promised to kill him that sort of sets it up but it also makes it on the nose. I am thinking now that we know where the body of Lynda is we might see him go to prison . Dot witnessed those guys getting ride of Danish Graves body and she has to know Lynda is buried in that pit, and you know I also wonder if giving that character the last name of "Graves" was the writers secretly hinting at his fate from the start.

Some might not like the idea of Roy not being killed but I think it also sort of lines up. Him locking Dot up in that room might be more foreshadowing of his fate of being locked up. Plus Roy is all about wanting power over people, especially his wives. Well going to prison is all about loosing power and control because you no longer have your freedom. Plus the idea of a cop going to prison also has some symmetry.
 
I was wondering this as well, whether the perfect end for Roy isn't death but the loss of everything that makes him a man; the job, the power, the wife, the guns etc.

Can I just say how much I loved that last shot of Dot. I mean love's the wrong word but with the bedstead up that way making it look like a cage. And yeah, bad move Roy, she knows where you bury the bodies now.

In many ways Graves has the same failings as Roy, the absolute certitude that he can win any situation, with Roy he thinks he can win through strength and will, for Danish it was about being smarter than the other guy, about using his silver tongue.

Damn it's a hard watch though, and is it wrong to feel a degree of empathy for wife #3? Clearly passed from an abusive father to an abusive husband.

Thank goodness for Olmstead kicking out her useless husband.

It still feels like there's a Vader redemption moment coming for Gator, though I think it needs earning, he clearly knows his mother is dead though, and if that didn't turn him away from Roy I'm not sure the "Why aren't you a Roy" is going to do it. always assuming Ole doesn't kill him next week!!

Dot is gonna survive this, isn't she? Tell me she's going to survive! :wah:
 
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