Episodes that are generally considered "bad" that you actually like

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  1. Greg Cox

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    I think the Memory Alpha listing for the episode has a discussion of the whole "first interracial kiss" thing, naming some of the other candidates.
     
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    Thank you both. As biracial (black/white) person, I guess I was just focused on the type of interracial kiss that resonated with me the most. But of course there are other examples, that deserve just as much attention and appreciation!
     
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  3. Greg Cox

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    "Space Seed" is an interesting case in that you had a Mexican actor playing a Sikh from northern India kissing a white actress, but, as far as I know, there was never any concern or controversy about that at the time, possibly because Ricardo Montalban had been playing Latin lovers on screen for years and years by then. Or because he wasn't actually Indian?

    And certainly "interracial kiss" as a phrase is less awkward than "white male/black female kiss," which is what is meant.
     
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    My general impression is that during the 1950s/1960s Latinos were for the most part seen as white. Montalban certainly was, since both of his parents immigrated directly from Spain, meaning he almost certainly didn't have any indigenous blood.

    Certainly from what I've seen of popular media at the time, it was considered more scandalous for a Jewish guy to date a "white" woman than a (white-looking) Latino guy.
     
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  5. Greg Cox

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    Although apparently Lucille Ball had to fight to be married to Desi on "I Love Lucy." From Wiki:

    "In 1950, CBS asked Ball to take My Favorite Husband to television with co-star Richard Denning.[27] She, however, saw a television show as a great opportunity to work with Desi, so Lucy insisted that Desi play her husband, much to the dismay of CBS, which was reluctant because Arnaz was Cuban.[28] CBS executives believed that audiences would not believe the marriage between an all-American girl and a Latin man.[28] To prove CBS wrong, the couple developed a vaudeville act, written by Carroll and Pugh, that they performed at the Newburgh's historic Ritz Theater with Arnaz's orchestra.[29] The act was a hit and convinced CBS executive Harry Ackerman that a Ball-Arnaz pairing would be a worthwhile venture. At the same time, rival networks NBC, ABC, and DuMont were showing interest in a Ball-Arnaz series, which Ackerman used to convince CBS to sign the duo."
     
  6. Spectre Of The Fun

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    When I said you are forgiven I was joking around. I am no better than you. You didn't say or do anything wrong (not that you actually thought you did). This forum is a useful but flawed way to communicate.

    I like you picking The Way To Eden as your favorite episode from Season 3. A few others did as well and I like that because that one usually comes in for criticism. I also like your suggestions on Picard antagonists if he must have one on the new show (Ardra or Vash). I will always enjoy having you in a discussion anywhere on this board.
     
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    Thank you, Spectre of the Fun, you made my day! :)
     
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  8. Commishsleer

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    "The Walking Dead" has that effect on me.
    I get repulsed by a few TNG and ENT episodes not because of any torture scenes but because of their overall message.
     
  9. Discofan

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    I like Rogue Planet, even though it doesn't make much sense, I still find it enjoyable.
     
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  10. Nyotarules

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    Also Montalban's parents were white Spanish people who migrated to Mexico, he was the same race as the actress he kissed, if you consider Caucasian an acceptable racial descriptor. Europeans from Spain are not a different race from Europeans from England or Germany.
     
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  11. Nyotarules

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    Just watched Spock's Brain, it grows on you after a while lol
     
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  12. Discofan

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    So does Parasitic Fungi. :guffaw:
     
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    A lot of folks dump on I, Mudd but I enjoy this episode. It's a good romp and Roger C. Carmel was always good.
     
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    Its one of those, its so bad its good episodes.
    "Brain, what is brain?"
     
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    Seriously, Star Trek as a whole would be so many memes poorer without "Spock's brain".
     
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    Alamarane!!!
     
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  17. Gabriel

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    Well for me it’s all of TNG season 7
     
  18. Discofan

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    with a special mention for "Genesis"...
     
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    Actually never really watch genesis, too weird
     
  20. Lance

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    "The Omega Glory". And "The Naked Now".

    I can see the criticisms of both. But I can't help it, I just enjoy them. :shrug: :D