We've already dealt with THE PASSION OF THE SPOCK.
As a Jew, Christmas is already so omnipresent in American culture when it comes to December that I'd much rather see Star Trek attempt something different, or at least make a strong point of acknowledging that not everyone gives a fig about Xmas. I don't trust the writers to present a balanced perspective though...and perhaps they don't trust themselves either, which is why they've stayed away from such content.
Too bad there isn't one good Trek TV episode where Christmas is more than an event that happened offscreen, a literary allusion, a flashback, or a holodeck program, and some of the main crew characters celebrate it in some fashion.
I'm not going to get into a debate with you about religion itself. However, there is lots of evidence throughout Trek of religion still existing. Regarding Christmas specifically, from Helen Noel attending a Christmas party with Kirk to Picard's Nexus fantasy being set around a Christmas tree, it seems clear that Christmas is still celebrated in the 23rd and 24th centuries.I'm late to the party on this, but I'm so glad there isn't.
I like to think religion has been cured in the future, and that's partially why Earth has moved on and life is better.
I can't comment on TOS, but I do see the nexus thing as a fantasy. I mean, the kids alone are something from a bygone age. It's highly stylised.I'm not going to get into a debate with you about religion itself. However, there is lots of evidence throughout Trek of religion still existing. Regarding Christmas specifically, from Helen Noel attending a Christmas party with Kirk to Picard's Nexus fantasy being set around a Christmas tree, it seems clear that Christmas is still celebrated in the 23rd and 24th centuries.
Gene said lots of things about Star Trek that were clearly not true.I can't comment on TOS, but I do see the nexus thing as a fantasy. I mean, the kids alone are something from a bygone age. It's highly stylised.
Also didn't Gene just outright say religion is not part of the future Trek?
Roddenberry did say that, but it's never been adhered to. In addition to the above examples, we know from the Berman era that Native Americans retain their spiritual beliefs. In Kurtzman era, there are humans wearing turbans and hijabs on Lower Decks, and also someone wearing a hijab on SFA. Humanity has not abandoned religion in the Trek future at all.Also didn't Gene just outright say religion is not part of the future Trek?
I have no problems with characters in Star Trek having secular religious beliefs, but I would really rather not they become the focus of a story.
You can also add the bajorans on DS9. There were tons of episodes dealing with religion on that show. Season two actually opened with a bajoran three parter. Its one of many reasons that incarnation of Star Trek will always be my favorite.Roddenberry did say that, but it's never been adhered to. In addition to the above examples, we know from the Berman era that Native Americans retain their spiritual beliefs. In Kurtzman era, there are humans wearing turbans and hijabs on Lower Decks, and also someone wearing a hijab on SFA. Humanity has not abandoned religion in the Trek future at all.
Are there no Chaplains?Kasidy Yates expressed the opinion that her mother would rather that she and Sisko be married by a minister rather than a Starfleet Admiral.


In Kurtzman era, there are humans wearing turbans and hijabs on Lower Decks, and also someone wearing a hijab on SFA. Humanity has not abandoned religion in the Trek future at all.
So everything that was once religious is now just cultural; tradition without meaning?
Like Halloween?I meant without the meaning it once had.
Human traditions can have more than one meaning, glad Trek keeps away from it.I meant without the meaning it once had.
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