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Enterprise Bridge Console - discuss!

scotthm said:
jon1701 said:
Gadgets? - Transporters, Phasers, Communicators, Tricorders, Bio-beds, Warp Drive? Ok, so didn't have the dreaded technobabble nonsense, but...how can you say TOS wasn't about the technology? It was set in the future!
Most TOS stories weren't about the technology. Some were, but most weren't. Did they feature advanced technology? Of course, but it was usually not the focus.

Starships? Are you saying the Enterprise wasn't a character?
I never really saw it that way, though I can't imagine TOS without it.

And Aliens? Are you telling me TOS wasn't about Aliens?
It was often about aliens, but usually not "weird aliens", as you put it. Most TOS aliens looked and acted decidedly human.

The success and indeed popularity of TOS was about many things. Not just the storylines and characters.
I didn't say other things don't matter, just that the focus has changed between TOS and newer incarnations of Star Trek. I hope this movie returns to the focus of TOS, rather than keeping the focus of newer Trek and just including the familiar names from TOS.

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I don't think we are going to agree on this one. As I stated above, TOS was a rich tapestry of many things. People didnt just tune in for the stories and characters - they tuned in for a variety of reasons.

Frankly, it was a story about a bunch of guys (and gals - in short skirts ;) ) flying around in outer space, seeing what was new. It was exciting. It was something they didn't see every week. There was a lot of stuff in there. Of course it wasn't just about the technology. I never said that. But as a kid (and I first saw TOS about 3 years old), I remember being amazed by the spaceships. As I grew up, I was fascinated by them. There were pictures all over my wall. The Doomsday Machine was (and is) one of my favourite episodes. I loved watching those starships get blown up :D As for the aliens - they were scarey. the Horta! The Horta scared the shit out of me as a kid. When the Kelvans crushed that pretty young ensign into dust I nearly cried.

Star Trek worked on many levels. Many levels.

You can't just attribute highbrow sensibilities to it. Star Trek was more than that. It was a space action adventure show. In living colour. Kirk had a fight with some green lizard in the sand, and one time he met some space hippies. :lol:
 
Yarmek... Horta... Cloud Creature... Gorn... Metrons... Tholians... M113 Creature... Several Killer Computers... Oh yeah they definately looked and acted decidedly human :-S
 
Son_of_Soong said:
Yarmek... Horta... Cloud Creature... Gorn... Metrons... Tholians... M113 Creature... Several Killer Computers... Oh yeah they definately looked and acted decidedly human :-S
You do know what the word "most" means, do you not?

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jon1701 said:
I don't think we are going to agree on this one.
That's fine. :)

I loved watching those starships get blown up :D
Far be it from me to re-write your childhood 'memories'.

Kirk... met some space hippies. :lol:
Please, don't remind me.

Can we please just put Archer and tribbles in the film, and not talk about space hippies too much? :)

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scotthm said:
There weren't a lot of space battles in Star Trek

Because the effect limitations at the time would've looked horrid and Roddenberry was high most of the time.
 
Squiggyfm said:
scotthm said:
There weren't a lot of space battles in Star Trek

Because the effect limitations at the time would've looked horrid and Roddenberry was high most of the time.

True.

Late '60s opticals only allowed for so much flexibility. Even huge-budget space movies like 2001 could only do so much with the spacecraft shooting models and remember, this was before the revolutions in moving/motorized camera shooting and bluescreens for effects and models achieved by George Lucas and his people during the first STAR WARS.
 
Well, folks...we have to remember something here.

Abrams is trying to bring a more realistic look to this movie than what the original TOS had.

TOS was a product of the '60s. And the idea of sci-fi tech was not much more advanced, at least in terms of control panels, than not much better than what NASA had at the time.

Here we are just 40 years later and we've more more hi-tech equipment in our cars than what the TOS Enterprise did...control panel-wise again. I mean we have touch screen GPS devices and what not...so why not think forward enough and make this 23rd centruy craft at least look like it's actually a product of that era rather than try to retro-fit it to make it look like Phase II of the '70s.
 
And I say gum-drops are still the best form of buttonry ever.

As a maeterr off facxt I;m tyuping onm the,m righrt now! *Ooo sticky*

Well, really, I think lighted buttons (not touchscreens) are the best way to go for a control panel.
 
Okudagrams an touchscreens will always take a backseat to gumdrop and jewel controls on TREK consoles. There's a lot to be said for three-dimensional, blinking buttons and toggles that look like physical controls.
 
I am just excited to see what they have come up with...I am sure it will blow us away...
 
just been 2 toyfair,bridge playset on view there,faithful layout to trek canon,champagne coloured metal finish around consoles,and view screen in front as always.transporter room slightly different but retro,costumes almost exactly like st tos,kirk in jumpsuit,and also space suit
 
Woulfe said:
For all we know this might be the Romulan ship or even the 24th century Enterprise old Spock is on, who are we kidding, this is the Enterprise bridge allright, JJ is sitting on the floor or a chair here with a verry 21st century notebook computer sitting on who's station here ?

Apple laptop computers are very Romulan though. :)
 
Aragorn said:
Woulfe said:
For all we know this might be the Romulan ship or even the 24th century Enterprise old Spock is on, who are we kidding, this is the Enterprise bridge allright, JJ is sitting on the floor or a chair here with a verry 21st century notebook computer sitting on who's station here ?

Apple laptop computers are very Romulan though. :)
Wolfe's point is quite appropriate.

Everyone's assuming that because we see A CONSOLE, that it's an ENTERPRISE BRIDGE CONSOLE.

Maybe this is the console Kirk uses to reprogram the Kobayashi Maru. Maybe it's the console of a Romulan ship. Maybe it's the condiments counter at the 23rd-century McDonalds!

It just doesn't show ANYTHING that makes me think "Enterprise bridge." Not in terms of the shape, the size, the appearance of functionality, or the fact that there's a transparency with stuff behind it. If that IS on the bridge, this bridge is NOTHING like the bridge we've seen before.

My money is on "Starfleet Academy Computer Facility Console."
 
^ It's not an assumption. It was stately quite clearly and repeatedly that the cast and crew were answering the questions from the bridge set during the filming of the last scenes of the movie. Heck, the caption under the photo reads, "JJ Abrams takes a station on the bridge of the Enterprise to chat with fans."
 
It is the bridge of the Enterprise but its clearly hasn't finished being built. Way too early to be saying "this bridge is nothing like we remember"
 
Son_of_Soong said:
It is the bridge of the Enterprise but its clearly hasn't finished being built. Way too early to be saying "this bridge is nothing like we remember"

They were filming on that set.
 
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