DS9 on blu ray?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by borgboy, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. dub

    dub Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Nah, they know if they pulled something like that we'd still ask for upconverted versions of the alleged pilfered episodes. :) Admit it, Squiggy. You love us.
     
  2. Relayer1

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    It's news archives mostly. The quality is better and recordings last longer. I presume everything will eventually be digitlly converted or binned, but at the moment it's still in use.

    They're stopping manufacturing tapes in March 2016.
     
  3. Tomalak

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    Yes, sounds like someone didn't know the difference between Betamax and Digibeta! I was roaring with laughter reading that post!

    IIRC broadcasters tended to use U-Matic rather than Betamax (though both were developed by Sony), which is better quality than VHS. Not sure how widespread that is these days, probably not very.
     
  4. Shalashaska

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    I got really pissed for a moment after reading this, then I thought "oh wait, how the heck would they manage to film all of a seven-season TV show in 70mm?"

    Lol, very dumb rumour whoever came up with it. They should have put at least some effort into it :lol:
     
  5. USS KG5

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    We at least know if it had all been filmed in 70mm we would have had a Tarantino supervised remaster by now.

    Also Sisko would have been played by Sam L Jackson.
     
  6. Shalashaska

    Shalashaska Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Let's have a Deep Space Nine 70MM Roadshow to compete with The Hateful Eight!
     
  7. Kemaiku

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    Oh come on, you have to give the Dominion some kind of sporting chance of winning.
     
  8. Turbo

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    Well, one thing seems likely. Different documentaries (from ENT and TNG) would be on any DS9 sets. With his temper tantrum on Twitter about Axanar today, there's very little chance Burnett is going to get any work from CBS any time soon, particularly anything Trek-related. Which is a shame, as his TNG documentaries were excellent.
     
  9. CorporalClegg

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    Not completely DS9 related, but I've been planning to do a 2016 year-long Trekathon for the anniversary. Last night I started getting my ducks in a row (so I'd be ready to go on Friday). I wanted to see how DS9/VOY looked on 1080 (since the last time I watched either, I still had a tube TV), so I pulled my DVDs out of closet storage. I went with VOY S1 just because it was on top.

    I put the DVD in, loaded "Caretaker," and it looked freaking terrible. My BR player does supposedly upscale (Not that it ever seems to do much), and I have watched older shows that looked fairly okay. But this was almost unwatchable. The opening crawl was really hard to read because it was so grainy/fuzzy.

    And the interior cabin shots were just so grainy. And whenever the lights flickered behind B"Elanna/Chuckles, you could visibly see all the pixels--almost to the point that it looked like artificial scanlines. I got as far as the credits and had to give up. There was visible tearing with all the effects--especially of the ship flying through the nebula.

    So then I fired up the Roku to try a stream. Both Netflix and Amazon looked worse than the DVDs.

    I was really disappointed--and kind of afraid to see what DS9 looks like.

    Obviously, full remasters aren't practical, but I would think there is something that could be done cheaply and efficiently that could at least make them look better on modern TVs.

    I don't even want to imagine what they look like on a 4K.
     
  10. kkt

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    "They" don't need to make excuses or give explanations, it's their property to either make or not make. But if there's one thing "they" are good at, I bet it's holding on to the contents of their film vaults.
     
  11. USS KG5

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    As a future guest star in one of the movies, Sam L Jackson would make an epic Admiral, a good one for once.

    Would be able to believably smack Pine's Kirk down.
     
  12. M'rk son of Mogh

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    I just last week finished my DS9 run-through with my sister (who had never seen the show before and I needed to correct that) after we went through the TNG blurays.

    And it looked fine, I played them on my xbox one on my 70 inch, and we never had any problems at all. Sure, it wasn't as crisp as TNG was, and the darker cave stuff would give artifacting, but otherwise it looked pretty good!

    I think expectations are just waaay too high these days where most have become spoiled. The story and enjoyment was the exact same and I even turned my sister into a fan.
     
  13. Squiggy

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    I didn't say it was an excuse from CBS.
     
  14. DS9forever

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    I'm glad I didn't buy the X-Files Blu-ray right away; there seems to be an issue in season eight with the sizing or contrast of the picture. Fox are giving out replacements to buyers.
     
  15. tomswift2002

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    DS9 and Voyager were mastered on D2 Digital Composite videotape. (the only time D1 Component videotape entered the equation was when the sfx were being composited together, and then everything was transferred to D2 and edited on to D2 Composite.) So in terms of DS9 and Voyager there is no true component video master, and as a result the upscaled suffer, because you are upscaling 480i composite video to 720p/1080i/p component video.

    As for Netflix and Amazon, from what I've seen on iTunes, CBS used a method the threw out one field of video an just doubled the remaining field in order to get a 480p version (the original D2 masters are at 480i) that's acceptable for Internet streaming.

    Also, in case anyone's interested, "Quantum Leap", the Scott Bakula early-90's sci-Fi series is hitting Blu-Ray in Australia this year.
     
  16. Michael

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    So, SeaQuest, The X-Files, Farscape and now Quantum Leap have found their way to blu-ray. I think that's at least an indication that CBS might entertain the idea of bringing DS9 to blu-ray, even if it's just with upscaled effects shots.

    So while I don't think DS9 in high definition would necessarily be done in a way most of us are hoping for, I think it's not too out of the realm of possibility to assume the series will be release on blu-ray eventually.

    One can still hope, at least. :)
     
  17. dub

    dub Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I don't know...does Australia have any interest in DS9? Sounds like that's where all the bluray action is happening these days for older scifi shows. :cool:
     
  18. IronMaiden

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    I do and someone else.
     
  19. The Laughing Vulcan

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    Australia has comparatively crappy Internet for HD streaming, which I guess explains all the Blu-ray love...
     
  20. IronMaiden

    IronMaiden Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    True, can't even watch a fucking live stream without it fucking stopping and loading.

    And we got the best internet speed option.