Drop the S31 show for a Captain Pike show?

[Lord Garth]

I want a Garth show. No bias whatsoever.

 

[Cake]

Identifying with characters (actors) is the no.1 reason why people watch things. You can change everything around them entirely - in fact, TMP very much changed EVERYTHING from TOS, and TWOK almost everything again. And yet people still followed it. Because they liked the characters/actors combination.

Sure, there was a lot of criticism about everything else - people didn't like the pace and costumes and plot of TMP, others not the violence of TWOK. And the discussion about how realistic the "refit" is is still ongoing, 50 years later. But people liked the actors and following the characters.

That's why I think even people that don't like DIS want a Pike show. They will still complain about everything else - the set designs, canon, whatever... But people actually do like Pike. The problem is DIS entirely hinges on Burnham, and not everyone is sold on her. I like her well enough, but by god do I think the show would improve of they slowly switch to an ensemble-way of storytelling and giving other characters spotlight-episodes.

I am not so sure about this. Burnham is not written well, but all the others characters are lacking, too. DIS has just problems everywhere. Season structure, storylines, characterizations, etc.. Just everything is suboptimal so far.

 

[DaveyNY]

I want a Garth show. No bias whatsoever.

If we're going that route, then I want a Captain Davey Blornhower show.

 

[SJGardner]

If we're going that route, then I want a Captain Davey Blornhower show.

My absolutely, 100% unbiased, non-fanboy opinion is that a 'Captain Killy escapes from Rura Penthe and becomes a space pirate' show is exactly what this franchise needs.

 

[BillJ]

My absolutely, 100% unbiased, non-fanboy opinion is that a 'Captain Killy escapes from Rura Penthe and becomes a space pirate' show is exactly what this franchise needs.

Definitely a better idea than Section 31 featuring Space Hitler.

 

[Mudd]

I do quite like Enterprise's transporter room.

 

[Mudd]

The pad itself borrows quite a bit from the JJTrek transporter:

 

[DaveyNY]

The pad itself borrows quite a bit from the JJTrek transporter:

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I think ... it appears to be just a bit more faithful to the TOS version though.
(though all the current Trek Sets are HUGE in comparison)

 

[Jadeb]

I love that the Disco version keeps the filmstrip dividers. It does a much better job preserving the TOS vibe. And it's cooler, too.

 

[lazarus+]

my fantasy is that more or less first thing in s3 they find prime lorca, caught in a singularity gravity well for hundreds of years, rescuing him

time dilation has made the time passage for him almost nothing

you can make up anything you like about how he got there at the event horizon in the past

i just want jason isaacs back

 

[Rahul]

My absolutely, 100% unbiased, non-fanboy opinion is that a 'Captain Killy escapes from Rura Penthe and becomes a space pirate' show is exactly what this franchise needs.

Hell yeah!
My completely unbiased opinion would friggin' love that!

 

[Nenya]

The pad itself borrows quite a bit from the JJTrek transporter:

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It always bugged me how you can't stand flat footed on those transporter pads. Looks like hell on the ankles.

 

[lazarus+]

It always bugged me how you can't stand flat footed on those transporter pads. Looks like hell on the ankles.

I have watched those movies a few times and I never noticed the uneven bubble below on transporters.

Interesting design choice.

 

[Nenya]

I have watched those movies a few times and I never noticed the uneven bubble below on transporters.

Interesting design choice.

You can never un-see it now.

 

[Alan Roi]

I'm dead sure you've either misread my post or you've misread me. Never have I ever said I think Discovery is bad. You know this.

No. My argument is: if someone doesn't like Discovery for reasons besides Micheal Burnham or the Spore Drive, then what makes them think they'd like a Pike Series any better? If they don't like the writing style, then it doesn't matter what they make the show about.

They can like the actor, they can like the character, but if they don't like everything else about the production, then those two things can only do so much. This is why I question why someone who doesn't like the season structure, story structure, writing, or production style of Discovery would suddenly do a complete turn-around and like a Pike Series.

And Dave Scarpa proves my point. Not to mention others (not Dave) who got very creative with their criticisms of "Q&A". The stuff they came up with is as much from outer space as the stars in the sky.

You'd be surprised how much crap people will put up, and praise unendingly with if they can get a crew dressed in color coded uniforms.

 

[BillJ]

I'd rather have a Captain Lorca show at this point.

 

[Nenya]

I'd rather have a Captain Lorca show at this point.

They really did Lorca dirty in my opinion. I liked him a lot more before the big reveal of him being from the mirror universe. Star Trek seems to have a problem with just letting some characters be, for lack of a better word, "mean" without them being under an alien presence, Section 31, or from the mirror universe. Some captains just have different management styles.

 

[BillJ]

They really did Lorca dirty in my opinion. I liked him a lot more before the big reveal of him being from the mirror universe. Star Trek seems to have a problem with just letting some characters be, for lack of a better word, "mean" without them being under an alien presence, Section 31, or from the mirror universe. Some captains just have different management styles.

The trick is to just have Lorca be a bigger dick than his Mirror universe counterpart.

 

[DaveyNY]

The trick is to just have Lorca be a bigger dick than his Mirror universe counterpart.

Wouldn't that just be Captain Jellico all over again?

 

[BillJ]

Wouldn't that just be Captain Jellico all over again?

We really don't know that much about Jellico. We saw him for two episodes while the Enterprise was being put on war footing. Picard could be a hardass as well.